In the Making

BONUS: Live from Adobe MAX London with Margot Bowman and Rachel Sale


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For this bonus episode, host Teresa Au shares talks from Adobe MAX London, Adobe’s flagship event in Europe for learning and inspiration. First we hear from Rachel Sale, a UK-based illustrator who is currently an Adobe Creative Resident at London's Victoria and Albert Museum. Rachel shares what it’s like to actually work in a museum, have access to museum resources, and display her work there. Next, filmmaker Margot Bowman shares her artist's journey with the concept of permission--who needs to ask for permission to be creative? Who has the power in that dynamic? Margot’s conclusions are both empowering and surprising.

Rachel Sale is a London-based artist who focuses on collective making. Since 2019, she has been leading F.A.T. Studio CIC, a nonprofit arts organization that runs collaborative art projects from a storefront on Old Kent Road, southeast London. This year, she is the Adobe Creative Resident for Illustration at the V&A Museum, where she is exploring map making as a method for building self-compassion, community and visions of the future. 

Margot Bowman, born and raised in London, uses the medium of film in all its forms as a creative vehicle for telling powerful human stories, centered on emotional truths. While she has primarily directed documentaries and commercials, she recently co-directed Amazon Prime’s The Tour ‘23, a feature documentary about the relaunch of Victoria Secret’s iconic fashion show as reimagined by 20 diverse women artists. Her documentary Coming Home, which premiered at SXSW 2022, was awarded Best Short at the prestigious Palestine Cinema Days, and was shortlisted for the International Documentary Association’s films of the year. She is now at work on her first feature film.

Shamima Begum leads Adobe Corporate Communications in EMEA, managing corporate reputation and brand purpose programs.

Teresa Au (@tautastic) is an executive for community engagement at Adobe, where she focuses on empowering creatives and students via workshops, panels, and podcasts. On creating In the Making, Teresa says “I knew I wanted to amplify the incredible personal stories of the talented and unique humans I’ve been meeting online and at our Create Now events across the world.”

Learn more about this podcast, and find transcripts and links, at adobe.ly/inthemaking. In the Making is brought you by Adobe Express and Adobe Creative Cloud. 

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