Welcome to another bonus episode of the No More Perfect Podcast! We like to bring you some extra podcast goodness every once in a while that's quick to listen to and helpful for your life. Just to say thank you!

In this bonus episode, Mark and I are talking all about the difference between letting our stories define us and letting our stories refine us. The reality is that when we let our stories define us, we experience shame and become stalled. When we let our stories refine us, we can experience growth.

Using the healing journey from our dark season of marriage as an example, we are sharing how God used our story as a pathway to refine each of us respectively in our faith, emotional health, and our thinking, as well as how He can do the same in your life.

We hope this bonus episode is a support to you this week!

Show Notes: https://jillsavage.org/bonus-refine-not-define/

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