From time to time on the Talk Birdie To Me podcast, we'll put out a different kind of chat, separate to the usual show structure. And this week Nick O'Hern and Mark Allen chat with Tour Pro Wade Ormsby just after he has arrived at Millbrook for the NZ Open.

We ask him about his time on the LIV tour, including getting into detail on the money involved for the players, how the exemptions and contacts work, and what his future in LIV may or may not be. And he explains in more details how the structure works with players moving in and out of the LIV roster, and what it means for them financially. And will Wade play in Adelaide in April? We find out.

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