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I uploaded part 1 instead of part 2. I was even told and I forgot! Sorry! 

In this conversation, Jake Barnes interviews Eric Roden, a seasoned firefighter with 29 years of experience. They discuss the evolution of firefighter training, the cultural shifts within the fire service, and the importance of generational perspectives. Eric shares insights on the challenges faced by modern firefighters, the significance of continuous learning through conferences, and the impact of experience on firefighting practices. They also address the divisiveness in the fire service and the need for officer development to navigate the changing landscape of firefighting.

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