Brian interviews Dave Meslin. Dave is a creative director of Unlock Democracy. Using non-traditional methods and creative tactics, Dave spent twenty years as a social and political entrepreneur leaving a trail of non-profit start-ups, campaign victories, viral videos, new magazines, and public space interventions in his path. An urbanist, community organizer, author and trainer, he inspires us to invert the traditional pyramid of hierarchy by creating meaningful opportunities to engage our employees, our members, our students. His thesis is simple: We’re stronger and smarter when we’re all involved. Transforming top-down leadership into bottom-up collaboration is the true challenge of the 21st century. He talks about the state of our democracy in Canada and what we need to do to fix it.