Given how much shit the zone is being flooded with right now, you might have missed Donald Trump screaming about the supposed mistreatment of white South Africans recently. Last week, he said “certain classes of people” were being treated “very badly.” The trigger was a bill signed by South African president, Cyril Ramaphosa, a former anti-Apartheid activist, trade union leader, and successful businessman—three qualities Trump doesn’t really understand.

Like the Trump administration, we have our own South African on staff—and he’s legitimately employed here! Julian grew up under apartheid and left the country due to it. Derek chats with him about what life was like growing up there, and he explains the confusion that Trump is injecting into the body politic.

Show Notes

Trump vs. South Africa

South African president signs controversial land seizure law

No Proof Elon Musk's Grandparents Belonged to Nazi Party

Errol Musk Talks About Elon’s Maternal Grandparents

Understanding What the 2025 Expropriation Act Means

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