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  • There's a new funding option for bootstrapped founders

    Tyler Tringas recently announced Earnest Capital; a new way for bootstrappers to raise money for their startups. 


    Should Jon and Justin consider this type of funding for Transistor?

    What do you think?

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    Show notes:

    • Earnest Capital
    • Tyler Tringas' introductory blog post
    • YouTube Livestream
    • Indie.vc
    • Tiny Seed Fund

    Thanks to our Patreon supporters:

    • Mike Walker
    • Brad from Canada
    • Darby Frey
    • Kevin Markham
    • Adam Duvander
    • Dave Giunta
    Thanks to our monthly supporters
    • Rewardful.com
    • Mitchell Davis from sixsides.co
    • Bill Condo (@mavrck)
    • Ward from MemberSpace.com
    • Evandro Sasse
    • Austin Loveless
    • Michael Sitver
    • Dave Giunta

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      48 min
    • Your startup's expenses are too high

      How much does it cost to run a SaaS in 2018? We take a look at our bootstrap expenses.

      Every business accrues monthly expenses. The danger? Business owners can get in the habit of spending money, believing that "you gotta spend money to make money."

      Transistor's expenses

      • Start up:
        • Logo and branding: $2,500 
        • Stripe Atlas: $500
        • Legal: $366.45  
      • Monthly expenses:
        • Editing: $320 / month
        • AWS: $300 / month
        • Media: $60 / month
      • Yearly expenses:
        • Domain: $100 / year
        • Incorporation: $200 / year
        • Accounting: $2k / year

      What do you think?

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      Show notes:

      • Patio11's reply to Justin's tweet: "It is far, far, far easier to create something that will increase the revenue of your business by $200 a month than it is to squeeze $200 out of the expenses."
      • Our branding designer is Dylan Wells.
      • Thang Pham

      Thanks to our Patreon supporters:

      • Brad from Canada
      • Darby Frey
      • Kevin Markham
      • Adam Duvander
      • Dave Giunta
      Thanks to our monthly supporters
      • Rewardful.com
      • Mitchell Davis from sixsides.co
      • Bill Condo (@mavrck)
      • Ward from MemberSpace.com
      • Evandro Sasse
      • Austin Loveless
      • Michael Sitver
      • Dave Giunta

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        57 min
      • How'd you get into computers? (Apple II, PC clones, BBSes, CYBERSPACE)

        If you used computers in the 80s and 90s you're going to love this episode.

        • Apple IIe in the school computer lab
        • The original Macintosh
        • "I wanted an Amiga so bad!"
        • The BBS scene: Wildcat, Roboboard/FX, being a SySop
        • Compuserve and AOL
        • Tandy 1000, 386, 486, building your own Pentium
        • Fave games: Commander Keen, King’s Quest, Wolfenstein, Doom, Duke Nukem, Raptor, Apogee Games
        • Our first websites: high school swim team website, snowboarding website (with a guestbook)
        • Our first computer businesses

        It's a fun one. ;)

        What do you think?

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        Show notes:

        • PC Magazine: the forgotten world of BBS door games 
        • Jon’s first computer: Compuadd
        • Justin posted this on a usenet group in 1994: Absolute Future BBS!
        • Justin’s first web company: Mediahead Productions
        • Jon’s first web company: Creatively Aware
        • Jon’s TV recommendation: Halt and Catch Fire (NY Times review)

        Thanks to our Patreon supporters:

        • Darby Frey
        • Kevin Markham
        • Adam Duvander
        • Dave Giunta
        Thanks to our monthly supporters
        • Rewardful.com
        • Mitchell Davis from sixsides.co
        • Bill Condo (@mavrck)
        • Ward from MemberSpace.com
        • Evandro Sasse
        • Austin Loveless
        • Michael Sitver
        • Dave Giunta

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          1 hr 13 min
        • You forgot $20,000 in your snowboard pocket

          Here we are at episode 30! Just found this old 2012 interview with the founder of MailChimp, before they became a $4.2 billion company. This quotes is awesome:


          Back in 2001, we had multiple customers who needed help sending their email newsletters. They were using really big, expensive, bloated software. We had some “scrap code” lying around, so we modified the code and turned it into an email newsletter app for them. We opened it up to the public, set up some Google Adwords, and basically forgot about it. Then, in 2005, we noticed it was a better business than our web-dev agency so we decided to take all of 2006 to wind down the agency business and beef up MailChimp’s features. We officially hit the “reset button” in 2007 and became a product company.


          More recently, MailChimp was in Forbes:


          Ben Chestnut and his cofounder, Dan Kurzius, have both profited richly from their patience. With $600 million in revenue, Mailchimp is in the black and has more than doubled its estimated valuation to $4.2 billion in the last two years, giving Chestnut, 44, and Kurzius, 46, its sole owners, stakes worth $2.1 billion each.


          Even more interesting for us:


          Mailchimp, launched in 2001 and remained a side project for several years, earning a few thousand dollars a month. Then in 2007, when it hit 10,000 users, the two decided to commit full-time. 


          This was the part that surprised me: MailChimp was a side-project for 6 years (earning just a few thousand to start).


          Especially interesting in light of this DHH quote I shared in a previous episode:


          If it takes five years to get to the point where the business can pay two salaries, it's possible that the business isn't destined for that long-term.


          Bootstrappers need to be more patient! (And maybe keep their day job)

          What do you think?

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          Show notes:

          • MailChimp in Forbes Magazine
          • Bill Irwin’s tweet
          • An interview with Ben Chestnut
          • We can still do a lot to slow climate change. 
          • DHH: why is We Work promoting burnout?
          • ProfitWell Engage
          • Good News Podcast

          Thanks to our Patreon supporters:

          • Darby Frey – LeadHonestly.com 
          • Kevin Markham
          • Adam Duvander
          • Dave Giunta
          Thanks to our monthly supporters
          • Rewardful.com
          • Mitchell Davis from sixsides.co
          • Bill Condo (@mavrck)
          • Ward from MemberSpace.com
          • Evandro Sasse
          • Austin Loveless
          • Michael Sitver
          • Dave Giunta

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            59 min
          • You drew a prototype on that napkin from Portland

            After one failed attempt, we're back with a new episode. Sorry it's late!

            "We, as the customer, are paying people who make apps so that their good work continues."

            Responses from last week's episode: "What should our one main metric be for our SaaS?"

            • Adam: “Don’t focus on MRR. That’s a cop out. Focus on increasing downloads.”
            • Daniel: “Justin should get out and sell like crazy.”
            • Colin and others said: “Re-examine your pricing.”

            What do you think?

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            Show notes:

            • Justin starts his own Patreon: "I want to keep writing and podcasting honestly no matter what."
            • MxPx's Kickstarter
            • CaddyServer – “Caddy is the HTTP/2 web server with automatic HTTPS.”
            • Please review us on iTunes – it helps other folks find the show!

            Thanks to our Patreon supporters:

            • Kevin Markham
            • Adam Duvander
            • Dave Giunta


            Thanks to our monthly supporters
            • Rewardful.com
            • Mitchell Davis from sixsides.co
            • Bill Condo (@mavrck)
            • Ward from MemberSpace.com
            • Evandro Sasse
            • Austin Loveless
            • Michael Sitver
            • Dave Giunta

            • 🎙️ Podcast hosting is provided by Transistor.fm.
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              51 min
            • What's the most important metric for a web app?

              What do you think?

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              Show notes:

              • Startups for the Rest of Us – EP260 “The one metric that matters”
              • Nathan Barry – Solving the cash problems from self-funding rapid growth
              • Nathan Barry – From losing money to a 51% profit margin in 5 months
              • CaddyServer – “Caddy is the HTTP/2 web server with automatic HTTPS.”
              • Please review us in iTunes – it helps other folks find the show!

              Thanks to our Patreon supporters:

              • Kevin Markham
              • Adam Duvander
              • Dave Giunta
              Thanks to our monthly supporters
              • Rewardful.com
              • Mitchell Davis from sixsides.co
              • Bill Condo (@mavrck)
              • Ward from MemberSpace.com
              • Evandro Sasse
              • Austin Loveless
              • Michael Sitver
              • Dave Giunta

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                47 min
              • We have some explaining to do

                Jon and Justin are back from Portland and the XOXO festival.

                In the last few weeks we've had a chance to interact with many of our customers in-person:

                • Nate Smoyer – "I’ve been using the podcast as a prospecting tool. Signed one dreams client two weeks ago. Interviewed with one yesterday. Got invited to lead a panel and live podcast for an industry event."
                • Kyle Marshall – Kyle's creating multiple shows for MediaLab in Calgary.
                • Matt Cassinelli and Alex Cox have a new podcast called Supercomputer.
                • Jaime Macías has a great show called Open Tabs.

                How big is the podcast market?

                • How many podcasts are there? Over 550,000 shows on iTunes and over 18.5 million episodes.
                • 64% of the US population is familiar with the term “podcasting” – up from 60% in 2017 (Infinite Dial 18)
                • 44% (124 million) of the US population has listened to a podcast – up from 40% in 2017 (Infinite Dial 18)
                • 26% (73 million) listen to podcasts at least every month – up from 24% in 2017 (Infinite Dial 18)
                • 17% (48 million) listen to podcasts weekly – up from 15% in 2017

                We recorded this episode live

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                What do you think?

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                Show notes:

                • Thanks to Kevin Markham for being our first Patreon supporter! Also thanks to Adam Duvander and Dan Weaver.
                • Back from XOXO 2018
                • Justin's bootstrapping articles
                • Twitter poll: What are most podcasts doing wrong?
                • Seth Godin's podcast Akimbo
                • "Branded podcasts are ads people actually want to listen to" - Fast Company
                • Please review us in iTunes – it helps other folks find the show!
                Thanks to our monthly supporters
                • Rewardful.com
                • Mitchell Davis from sixsides.co
                • Bill Condo (@mavrck)
                • Ward from MemberSpace.com
                • Evandro Sasse
                • Austin Loveless
                • Michael Sitver
                • Dave Giunta

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                  46 min
                • Your revenue forecast is wrong

                  What does "bootstrapping" mean really?

                  For most folks, bootstrapping means self-funding your business from revenues. It means not taking Venture Capital, not taking Angel funding. It's a little bit of a religion and like so many religions different people have different definitions of what it takes to "fit in." Some people say you can't even take money from friends and family. If you take any outside money, you're no longer a part of the bootstrappers club.

                  We recorded this episode live

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                  What do you think?

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                  Show notes:

                  • Thanks Tyler Tringas!
                  • Article: Bootstrapper's Paradox (on Indie Hackers)
                  • Getting Real by 37signals
                  • Tool: Forecast your MRR revenue
                  • Natalie Nagele's tweet
                  • Joel Gascoigne's tweet
                  • Watch our live Twitch recording (or watch on YouTube)
                  • Please review us in iTunes – it helps other folks find the show!
                  Thanks to our monthly supporters
                  • Rewardful.com
                  • Mitchell Davis from sixsides.co
                  • Bill Condo (@mavrck)
                  • Ward from MemberSpace.com
                  • Evandro Sasse
                  • Austin Loveless
                  • Michael Sitver
                  • Dave Giunta

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                    46 min
                  • The problem with podcasts

                    Nick Quah shared this in his recent newsletter, commenting about podcasts:

                    [I have] this feeling that everybody’s drilling for oil in the same spot because some other guy found oil there already.


                    Nick thinks podcasters have two options:

                    1. Build something that does the same thing for the same audience, but do it better. If this is the case, he says, “you better bring it.”
                    2. Or, “identify and pursue a pocket of pent-up demand that has yet to be unleashed.”

                    Note: apologies about Justin's audio in this episode! We'll fix that for next time.

                    What do you think?

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                    • Create your own podcast at transistor.fm 

                    Show notes:

                    • Why many products struggle, and only a few succeed
                    • Clubhouse.io – Jon's new project management software for Cards Against Humanity.
                    • Perennial Seller by Ryan Holiday
                    • Alitu – edit your podcast in the browser
                    • Podcast Royale – Adam Clark's podcast production company
                    • Auphonic – automated audio post-production
                    • ProfitWell – SaaS metrics
                    • Stripe's built-in SaaS metrics
                    • Watch our live Twitch recording (or watch on YouTube)
                    • Please review us in iTunes – it helps other folks find the show!
                    Thanks to our monthly supporters
                    • Rewardful.com
                    • Mitchell Davis from sixsides.co
                    • Bill Condo (@mavrck)
                    • Ward from MemberSpace.com
                    • Evandro Sasse
                    • Austin Loveless
                    • Michael Sitver
                    • Dave Giunta

                    • 🎙️ Podcast hosting is provided by Transistor.fm.
                      📺 Learn
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                      ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
                      54 min
                    • What's a good conversion rate for a web app?

                      SaaS conversation rate cheatsheet:

                      Credit card upfront:

                      • Visitor to trial: 0.75% - 1%
                      • Trial to paid: 40% - 60%

                      No credit card upfront:

                      • Visitor to trial: 5%+
                      • Trial to paid: 8% - 20%

                      Transistor's conversion rates since launch:

                      • Total traffic since launch: 40,162 unique pageviews, 11,614 visitors
                      • Total new trials since launch: 32 (out of 49 active trials total)
                      • Conversion %(visitor to trial): 0.3% (should be 0.75% - 1%)
                      • Conversion %(trial to paid): 8.9% - 16.7% (should be 40% - 60%)
                        • July was 17.9%
                        • June was 29.6%
                        • May was 48.7%

                      What do you think?

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                      • Create your own podcast at transistor.fm 

                      Show notes:

                      • Baremetrics
                      • Chartmogul
                      • ProfitWell
                      • Stripe Billing - “go to Stripe, and then billing menu”
                      • Marco's tweet - donation support for podcasts in Overcast
                      • Please review us in iTunes – it helps other folks find the show!
                      Thanks to our monthly supporters
                      • Rewardful.com
                      • Mitchell Davis from sixsides.co
                      • Bill Condo (@mavrck)
                      • Ward from MemberSpace.com
                      • Evandro Sasse
                      • Austin Loveless
                      • Michael Sitver
                      • Dave Giunta

                      • 🎙️ Podcast hosting is provided by Transistor.fm.
                        📺 Learn
                        how to start your own podcast!

                        ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
                        31 min

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