Great teams make great restaurants. On The Pre-Shift, restaurant operators and industry experts dive into building great restaurant teams. We explore their stories, their strategies, and valuable lessons on running restaurant teams. Hosted by D.J. Costantino. Presented by 7shifts.

In the latest episode of the Preshift Podcast, host D.J. Costantino chats with Margaret Pak, chef and co-owner of Thattu in Chicago. Pak shares her inspiring transition from corporate life to culinary arts, detailing her journey from selling spicy ketchup to opening a successful food stall and finally establishing an award-winning restaurant. The episode delves into her passion for Kerala cuisine, her experience with food pop-ups, and her innovative no-tip service model. Pak also discusses the significance of transparent menu pricing, equitable staff wages, and her future plans, including participating in prestigious culinary events and creating retail condiments.

00:00 Welcome to the Preshift Podcast

00:17 Meet Margaret Pak: Chef and Co-Owner of Thattu

01:13 From Corporate to Culinary: Margaret's Journey

02:38 Falling in Love with Kerala Cuisine

03:41 From Prep Cook to Pop-Up Success

07:23 The Birth of Thattu: From Food Stall to Restaurant

10:41 Navigating the Pandemic and Reassessing Plans

11:59 Reopening and Expanding Through Pop-Ups

17:15 Innovative Business Model: No Tips, No Service Charge

27:19 Building a Collaborative and Equitable Team

31:06 Advice for Aspiring Restaurateurs

36:42 What's Next for Thattu?

38:21 Closing Remarks and Thank You

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