What happens when the God of the Old Testament seems unrecognizable next to the Jesus of the New Testament? In this thought-provoking episode of Cabernet and Pray, we tackle what Jeremy calls “the worst chapter in the Bible,” Numbers 31. Together, we confront the shocking themes of revenge, violence, and divine commands that seem incompatible with the love of Jesus. With a glass of Sokol Blosser 2021 Pinot Noir in hand, we explore how ancient contexts and human perceptions of God shape scripture—and what this means for our faith today. Don’t miss this deep dive into the Bible’s most challenging narratives.

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Jeremy leaves listeners with the challenge to dig deeper into scripture, trusting that a clearer picture of God emerges through Jesus. Christians can engage with difficult passages and grow a faith rooted in love, humility, and understanding.

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Can you love Jesus so much that it leaves others feeling unloved? In this episode of Cabernet and Pray, we unpack a poignant quote from A.W. Tozer’s widow that has sparked a surprising amount of debate among Christians. Join us as we dive into what it truly means to balance a love for God with a love for others, all while sipping on a gorgeous 2021 Archers Crest Pinot Noir. This episode will surely challenge your perspective on faith, relationships, and how we express our devotion.

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Pour yourself a glass of wine and reflect on how your love for God translates into love for others. Join us for this candid discussion that blends theology, wine appreciation, and a fresh take on what it means to live out your faith. Cheers to loving well!

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In this episode, we explore the creative expressions of the church with Mark McKinney, an innovator who is challenging traditional church structures. We dive into the unpredictability of faith journeys, the critical need for true discipleship in modern Christianity, and the fascinating intersection of faith and technology.

Mark shares his experiences leading Reunion, a trauma-informed church in a brewery, and reflects on the importance of serving communities authentically. We explore themes of flexibility, adaptation, and humility in ministry, highlighting how unconventional spaces and approaches can foster genuine connections and support for those often overlooked by traditional church settings.

Tune in for an inspiring discussion about reimagining church, community engagement, and nurturing a culture of inclusivity and healing. Whether you're a church leader, believer, or someone curious about innovative faith practices, this episode will surely offer thought-provoking insights and encouragement.

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Today we're diving deep into the complexities of faith, politics, and personal transformation with our guest, April Ajoy. April, an author and content creator known for her book "Star Spangled Jesus: Leaving Christian Nationalism and Finding a True Faith," joins us to unpack the deconstruction movement among white evangelicals questioning their support for Trump, especially post-2020 pandemic.

In this episode, April shares her journey from promoting Christian nationalism to fostering a more inclusive spirituality. We'll discuss the potential impact of another Trump presidency on evangelical communities, the rising need for supportive spaces for those exiting these conservative circles, and how April uses her past experiences to challenge harmful beliefs without alienation.

We'll also touch on the contradictions within Christian nationalism, the challenges of patriarchy and misogyny in theology, and the transformative power of engaging with differing beliefs. April shares personal anecdotes, including her enlightening experiences with her children's faith education and the humorous beginnings of her wine-tasting adventures.

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In today's episode, Jeremy shares some exciting personal updates, including the opening of a second rental property in Oregon wine country, the charmingly named "Vino Victorian." But the core of today's episode dives into a profound and possibly controversial re-examination of a familiar Biblical story from Luke 19: the tale of the wicked servant.

Jeremy challenges traditional parable interpretations, suggesting we're not seeing the whole picture. What if the character we've always viewed as "wicked" represents a more Christ-like stance? Join Jeremy as he unpacks this compelling perspective, drawing intriguing connections to Jesus's teachings and inviting listeners to see this parable in a new light. Whether navigating today's tumultuous world or seeking deeper spiritual insights, this episode promises to offer fresh, thought-provoking content. So grab a glass of something rich and flavorful, sit back, and let's dive into another episode of "Cabernet and Pray."

Wine in this episode: 2019 Quinta Das Carvalhas from Duoro, Portugal

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We're thrilled to have Andrew Whitehead, an esteemed professor of sociology and author of "American Idolatry: How Christian Nationalism Betrays the Gospel and Threatens the Church."

In this episode, we dive into the complex world of Christian nationalism in America through Andrew's insightful lens. We explore the idea that changing minds often requires more than cold, hard facts; it demands empathy, asking the right questions, and building genuine relationships. Andrew shares personal reflections on America's history, scrutinizing the narrative of it being a "Christian nation" in light of its checkered past.

We'll touch upon the provocative "inverted golden rule," navigating echo chambers, and the tension between disengagement and necessary political advocacy. You'll also hear thought-provoking discussions on how power should be wielded for justice, the importance of listening to marginalized voices, and balancing faithfulness with the often flawed pursuit of efficiency.

We also have some lighter moments, from Andrew's memorable wine experience in Florence, Italy, to enlightening takes on quantum physics and arm wrestling.

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In this episode, we’re diving deep into the fascinating intersection of faith and technology, responding to your comments and critiques about our previous discussion on the ethics of robots. From accusations of irrelevance to insightful parallels with historical exclusion in Christianity, we’re tackling it all.

I address the arrogance and disdain some feel towards robotic sentience and, humorously, whether churches would accept robots if they could contribute financially. We’ll also explore the historical patterns of exclusion in Christianity—particularly towards women and the LGBTQ+ community—drawing from historical events and figures like Augustine.

Our chat will challenge you to reflect on inclusivity in faith, considering whether we could or should extend our understanding of community to future technological beings like robots, clones, or even aliens. Plus, I’ll share some exciting details about an upcoming wine and whiskey trip to Oregon, designed to blend tasting sessions with deep discussions about faith.

So grab a glass of wine, sit back, and let's journey through these provocations and insights together. Are we ready to expand our vision of inclusion, or will we continue to draw lines in the sand? 

Wine in this episode: Dolce Rosso Lambrusco

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In this episode, Sean Palmer, author and teaching pastor at Ecclesia Houston, invites us on a thought-provoking journey discussing memorable wine experiences, evolving beliefs about wealth, and the pressing challenges facing Christianity in America. Sean reflects on faith, aging, and death in a post-COVID world.

Additionally, we explore the transformative impact of the Enneagram and embrace the importance of individual differences within the church. With engaging anecdotes and profound insights, this episode promises an enriching conversation about life’s transitions, the essence of community, and living thoughtfully in the face of mortality. 

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Today we dive deep into the fascinating intersection of spirituality, philosophy, and cutting-edge technology with a very special guest—Joshua K. Smith. Josh is not just a cybersecurity analyst but also a theologian, former pastor, and insightful author.

As we sip on exquisite wines—Jeremy with a crisp 2021 Rex Hill Pinot Noir Rosé, and Josh enjoying a 2021 Chardonnay from The Prisoner Wine Company—our discussion navigates the thoughtful terrain of AI, robotics, and ethics. Josh challenges us to consider our relationships with robots, much like bonding with pets or inanimate objects, emphasizing the need for ethical safeguards.

We draw inspiration from cultural touchstones like "Westworld" and "Ex Machina," delving into complex questions about human responsibility, the evolution of technology, and its potential to reshape our understanding of identity and servitude. Josh shares his evolving theological perspectives, questioning traditional doctrines and advocating for inclusive, philosophical conversations.

Buckle up for an intellectually stimulating ride that doesn't shy away from our time's moral and ethical dilemmas, all while exploring how age-old theological inquiries can be re-examined through the lens of modern technology. Whether you're a tech enthusiast, spiritual seeker, or curious mind, this episode offers something profound.

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We're celebrating a significant milestone—our 30th episode!

We talk with Brit Baron, speaker, storyteller, and author of the compelling new book, "Do You Still Talk to Grandma?" Brit reflects on her journey of evolving beliefs and personal growth, touching on the psychological concept of cognitive closure and how it shapes our decision-making and beliefs. We'll discuss distinguishing between primary and secondary beliefs, the challenges of navigating social justice work, and the importance of embracing mistakes as a path to growth.

We'll also touch on timely and poignant topics like the controversial actions of public figures, the evolving perceptions of societal issues, and the need for empathy in transformative conversations. Brit's personal anecdotes and profound reflections will inspire you to hold multiple realities and approach life's complexities with patience and openness.

Get ready for an engaging conversation packed with wisdom, humor, and powerful storytelling. So grab your glass of wine, settle in, and let's dive into a heartfelt journey of faith, growth, and understanding.

Wine in this episode: 2021 Dobbes Grenache Blanc

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