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John sits down with Pastor Mark to talk demons, exorcism, prayer, what is Christianity and more from our very own Keipi restaurant. Before entering into Christianity fully, Pastor Mark was a fraud investigator with more than 30 years experience. And when he heard about demons being cast out he was naturally skeptical, but fast forward to the present and he finds himself doing the same thing.

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--- This “Enlightened” New World utopia isn’t turning out to be all it was cracked up to be. Society is disenchanting, but are the only alternatives hiding out in the hills or burying yourself in books? With an air of levity and a touch of humor, John Heers teaches how to examine the confusing New World by calling upon the mind and wisdom of oft-forgotten Old. Heavy Things, Lightly. ---

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