Joanna and Zach chat about pet-nat wines: why they achieved a degree of popularity largely in concert with the natural wine movement, but might now be struggling to step outside of that specific segment of the wine industry. Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review VinePair on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to [email protected]. Thanks for listening, and be well.

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Joanna is reading: No Bourbon Defines the 'Tater' Era More Than Weller

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