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The Kamloops Indian Residential School made headlines five years ago this month. What followed was tears across the country, marches, statues torn down, and the Prime Minister bending a knee while holding a teddy bear. Then came the counter narrative fuelled by books with titles like Grave Error and Dead Wrong.

Today we talk to Dr. Kisha Supernant, Professor of Anthropology at the University of Alberta, who has been working in the field at potential grave sites across the country. What has she found? What is the tone of the debate five years on from Kamloops? And why are there still so many questions?

Host: Jesse Brown

Credits: Julian Abraham (Reporter), Caleb Thompson (Post Production), Bruce Thorson (Senior Producer), Jesse Brown (Editor and Publisher)

Additional music by Audio Network

Fact checking by Kallan Lyons

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The new GM for the Toronto Maple Leafs faced the press and it did not go well. With scathing questions and confounded columnists, Toronto reaffirmed its reputation as a tough media market. 

What is it about sports that creates unique regional media markets with their own tone and style of coverage? 

Dan Robson of The Athletic joins Sam Konnert to talk sh*t about sports reporting. 

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Host: Sam Konnert

Credits: James Nicholson (Producer), Kallan Lyons (Associate Producer and Fact Checking), Caleb Thompson (Mixing and Mastering), max collins (Director of Audio), Jesse Brown (Editor)

Guest: Dan Robson

Further reading: 

• John Chayka’s tenure with the Maple Leafs begins under intense scrutiny - The Globe and Mail 
• Internet reacts to Steve Simmons' viral moment at Leafs press conference for new GM John Chayka 
• The Aura Shift: Macklin Celebrini and the NHL’s TikTok-bred Gen Z takeover - The Athletic 
• Looking back on new Maple Leafs GM John Chayka’s tenure in Arizona - Sportsnet.ca
• Dawn Of The Dumb: We Need A Better Class Of Fan - Richard Lewis [Substack]
• Noam Chomsky: Why Americans Know So Much About Sports But So Little About World Affairs - Alternet
• Toronto team signs Yasiel Puig, despite potential prison sentence looming - CTV News
• Vancouver police deny motorcade request for FIFA's Infantino - ESPN   

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As journalists, we are pretty online. Terminally online. Our screen time apps? Let’s not go there…

Now our social media feeds are likely different from many of yours. So we wanted to ask all of you, who probably lead less online lives, what you love, hate, and how you balance your online from your IRL. And you all had so much interesting stuff to share.

Host: Sam Konnert

Credits: Tristan Capacchione (Producer), Tony Wang (Executive Producer), max collins (Director of Audio), Jesse Brown (Publisher)

Photo: Tony Wang

Additional music by Audio Network

Further Reading:

• Zucked: Waking Up to the Facebook Catastrophe — Penguin Random House
• Careless People: A Cautionary Tale of Power, Greed, and Lost Idealism — Flatiron Books
• Pinterest Users Are Tired of All the AI Slop — Wired
• LinkedIn Lunatics Subreddit — Reddit
• The #BLM Protests Are Not Your Aesthetic — Story Factory
• mastodon explained in only a few sentences - for a newbie — Reddit
• People don’t want to run their own servers, and never will. (Actual title is “My first impressions of web3”) — Moxie Marlinspike (Founder of Signal)

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CBC is expanding its regional news coverage and not everyone is happy about it. Some local news outlets say that the CBC is poaching their staff and stories. 

Plus, Carney’s government is planning a massive extension of journalism tax credits to include radio and broadcast, propping up legacy platforms owned by the big telcos. 

Are subsidies stifling competition and innovation?

Host: Sam Konnert

Credits: James Nicholson (Producer), Kallan Lyons (Associate Producer and Fact Checking), Caleb Thompson (Mixing and Mastering), max collins (Director of Audio), Jesse Brown (Editor)

Guest: Harrison Lowman

Additional music by Audio Network

Further reading: 

• Lisa Sygutek: The CBC is a predator of local news | National Post
• CBC president denies broadcaster is biased or poaches journalists from smaller markets - CBC News  
• The Government Doubles Down on News Sector Support: Fiscal Update Opens the Door to Tens of Millions in Tax Credits for Bell, Rogers and Corus - Michael Geist
• The end of the journalism world beckons and the industry pretends it’s not happening - Peter Menzies - The Rewrite [Substack]  
• The Canadian government is now deciding who’s a journalist - The Hub
• Eco News Site No. 1 In Grants | Blacklock's Reporter 
• Cape Breton community TV station loses federal funding for only journalist | CBC News  
• Liberals use majority to move some parliamentary committees behind closed doors | CBC News
• SCOOP: Jen Gerson: Elections Alberta's massive failure could have put people in danger. I tried to warn them. - The Line [Substack]  

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PM Mark Carney has managed to stitch together a majority in the House of Commons and has approval numbers we haven't seen in forever. Host Noor Azrieh thinks this is the kind of political moment that demands opposition. But, how exactly is the Opposition supposed to oppose Carney… when they can’t even get their own house in order? We put this to Conservative MP Michelle Rempel Garner. 

Host: Noor Azrieh

Credits: Aviva Lessard (Senior Producer), Sam Konnert (Host/Producer), Noor Azrieh (Host/Producer), Caleb Thompson (Audio Editor and Technical Producer), Max Collins (Director of Audio) Jesse Brown (Editor), Tony Wang (Artwork)

Guests: MP Michelle Rempel Garner

Background reading:

• Terry Newman: Conservative MP speaks out about how the Liberals tried to poach her – National Post
• Immigration minister says she’s accountable after former IRGC official granted a visa – CTV News
• Conservatives press Liberal government to limit health care for some refugee claimants – CBC News
• Carney to Launch Sovereign Wealth Fund to Distance Canada’s Economy From U.S. – The New York Times
• Upcoming federal health care cuts could put refugee claimants at risk - CBC News

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What social media do you love or hate? How do you balance your IRL from your online? Anything you feel is social media counts (Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, dating apps?, etc.)

That episode of Off The Record will come out this week, May 7th! STAY TUNED. 

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Objection.ai is the new AI-powered tool from Aron D’Souza and Peter Thiel. The duo who helped bankrupt Gawker ten years ago. They're also teaming up to bring the world the steroid-embracing Enhanced Games later this month. D’Souza says Objection.ai is about restoring public trust in journalism and making it more transparent. Critics worry about its ideological bent and what it means to subject journalists, and their sources, to an AI "judge".

Aron D’Souza joins Jesse to talk about the tech, what it means to "object" to a reporter’s work, and if there’s any reason to believe Objection.ai could work at all.

Host: Jesse Brown

Credits: Tristan Capacchione (Producer), Bruce Thorson (Senior Producer), max collins (Director of Audio), Jesse Brown (Editor and Publisher)

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Fact checking by Julian Abraham

Photo: Objection.ai website (NOTE: This artwork for this episode was likely generated by A.I., by the website’s designers.)

More information:

• Can AI judge journalism? A Thiel-backed startup says yes, even if it risks chilling whistleblowers — TechCrunch
• Full transcript: Conversation with Aron D’Souza on Objection and AI in journalism — TechCrunch
• Hulk Hogan v. Gawker: Invasion of Privacy & Free Speech in a Digital World — First Amendment Watch NYU
• Trust in Media: How Canadians feel about news outlets — Pollara Strategic Insights
• Trust in Media at New Low of 28% in U.S. — Gallup
• A Reporter Explains His Approach to Writing News and Features — New York Times
• Objection

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Buyers. Sellers. Real estate porn. With so many Canadians locked out of the market, should the coverage shift to reflect the realities of the housing crisis? 

Sabrina Nanji joins San Grewal to talk about the generational disconnect between homeowners and those who will never own a home. Does Canada have the political will to actually address the housing crisis? 

Host: San Grewal

Credits: James Nicholson (Producer), Kallan Lyons (Associate Producer and Fact Checking), Caleb Thompson (Mixing and Mastering), max collins (Director of Audio), Jesse Brown (Editor)

Guest: Sabrina Nanji

Further reading: 

• Will HST cut on new homes save buyers money? Early look finds 78% of prices are the same or higher - Toronto Star
• PCs tabling bill ‘pulling out all the stops’ to expedite home, road and transit construction - The Trillium  
• Blue Jays star George Springer puts Toronto mansion on the market for $6.4 million - Toronto Sun
•  Canada housing crisis: Who will build 4 million new homes? | CBC.ca [VIDEO]
• B.C. quietly suspends major affordable housing fund, leaving proponents holding the bag | Langley Advance Times
• ‘Trinity Bollwoods’? City installs signs with typo and theatre that no longer exists - Toronto Star
• https://www.ctvnews.ca/regina/video/2026/04/22/the-potential-benefits-of-the-ai-data-centre-in-the-rm-of-sherwood/ 

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All month, we’ve been asking you to share Canadaland with as many people as possible. Our goal was to double our audience.

Did we pull it off?

Let’s put it this way: Our investigations budget will be increasing substantially and our freelance and fellowship rates are going up by a whopping 50%.

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Doug Ford is facing public scrutiny for his changes to Freedom of Information and his “gravy plane” fiasco. But throughout his career, Ford has leveraged his folksy persona to deflect and distract from his scandals. Behind the shtick is a calculated and effective political communications strategy, but has the “Uncle Doug” routine finally run out of steam?   

Off The Record Call-in Details: 

What social media do you love or hate?

Call in and let us know on Thursday April 30,from 4:30 PM to 6:30 PM EDT.

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Host: San Grewal

Credits: James Nicholson (Producer), (Associate Producer and Fact Checking), Caleb Thompson (Mixing and Mastering), max collins (Director of Audio), Jesse Brown (Editor)

Guest: Sabrina Nanji

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Further reading: 

• Anti-Doug Ford rallies take place across Ontario to protest OSAP, FOI changes | CBC News
• Doug Ford regularly worked from home after ordering civil servants back to office | Globalnews.ca 
• Ford government passes bill gutting Ontario freedom-of-information access - Toronto Star
• Ford says no one in Canada is scrutinized like he is after backtracking on $28.9M private jet purchase | CBC News 
• Opinion | Doug Ford's problem wasn't the plane, it was the politics - Toronto Star
• Canada Says Its Gold Is Traceable and Clean. So We Traced It. - The New York Times 
• Manitoba to ban social media, AI chatbots for youth, premier says | CBC News 

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Is Alberta separatism being boosted by foreign “slop”? Today host Sam digs into a network of faceless YouTube channels pushing 51st state fantasies, grievance-fueled separatist content, and AI-generated political sludge that’s racked up tens of millions of views. 

But is this covert foreign interference, or just click-farming wrapped in geopolitics?

Host: Sam Konnert

Credits: Aviva Lessard (Senior Producer), Sam Konnert (Host/Producer), Caleb Thompson (Audio Editor and Technical Producer), Max Collins (Director of Audio) Jesse Brown (Editor), Tony Wang (Artwork)

Guests: Chris Ross, Jen Gerson

Background reading:

• Alberta government launches information campaign in support of fall referendum questions | CBC News
• Jason Kenney warns Alberta independence movement could become ‘a real factor’ in politics | The Globe and Mail
• On The Line: Jason Kenney on Alberta separatism | The Line
• Alberta is on a collision course with a dangerous political storm | Daveberta
• Dutch YouTube creators behind Alberta separatist videos getting millions of views - CBC News
• SLOPAGANDA Report

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Did you know we have a monthly supporter exclusive show? This week we’re talking to you  about your social media habits. 

What social media do you love or hate? How do you balance your IRL from your online? Anything you feel is social media counts (Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, dating apps?, etc.)

Call in and let us know on Thursday April 30, from 4:30 PM to 6:30 PM ET so mark your calendars!

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