As the Big 12 regular season winds down, Cleon Wall kicks off a series of deep‑dive team evaluations with insights from podcasters across the conference. This episode focuses on Kansas State and Utah—two programs looking to rebuild and rise from the bottom of the standings.

First, John Kurtz of the 3MAW Podcast breaks down Kansas State’s turbulent season, including the fallout from Jerome Tang’s mid‑season dismissal, what the Wildcats should prioritize in their next head coach, and whether stars like P.J. Haggerty are likely to return to Manhattan next year.

Then, Alex Markham of the Ute Nation Podcast joins to discuss Utah’s first season under head coach Alex Jensen. Despite the bumps, Markham explains why Ute fans should stay patient and how the foundation is being laid for long‑term success.

Cleon also zooms out to the biggest storylines in the Big 12, including how Texas Tech has adapted without JT Toppin, and BYU has struggled after losing Richie Saunders to injury.