Connor and Chase are flying solo this week for a shorter, more personal episode diving into 1 Samuel 8–10, 13, 15, and 16 — the chapters that set the stage for one of Scripture's most iconic stories: David and Goliath.

This week, the guys reflect on the powerful theme that whom the Lord calls, He qualifies — and what it means to feel unworthy of a calling but show up anyway. Connor shares his own experiences with feeling unqualified, from his mission to his recent calling in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and how these chapters brought real comfort. Chase draws a compelling parallel between Saul's call to be king and the mindset of Raiders quarterback Fernando Mendoza, whose quiet dedication to doing "everything he can" every day reflects the heart-centered discipleship the scriptures teach.

This episode is an open invitation: Connor and Chase want to hear your favorite takeaways from this week's Come Follow Me. Head to their Instagram or drop a comment on YouTube.

BYU religion professor Tyler Griffin joins Connor Pay and Chase Roberts for a deep dive into the Book of Ruth and the opening chapters of 1 Samuel. What begins as an overlooked four-chapter story becomes a rich exploration of loyalty, redemption, and what it means to trust God in seasons of uncertainty.

Professor Griffin unpacks the powerful symbolism woven through Ruth's story — how Naomi represents the House of Israel, Ruth represents each of us, and Boaz serves as a type of Jesus Christ — the ultimate kinsman redeemer. Together, they explore how Ruth's loyalty, Boaz's loving kindness, and Hannah's praise in 1 Samuel all point to the same truth: when we put the Savior at the center, life becomes something worth trusting — even when we can't see where it's going.

Connor Pay and Chase Roberts are joined by BYU professor of ancient religion Josh Matson for a rich discussion on the Book of Judges as part of this week's Come Follow Me study.

Josh shares his winding journey to BYU — from being cut from his high school basketball team, to a mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Canada, rejected job applications, a week in Hawaii that led nowhere, and ultimately landing at BYU on his fourth try. His story sets the tone for the episode's central theme: God calls people not because of what they've done, but because of what He needs them to do.

Together, Connor, Chase, and Josh explore the cycle of sin, captivity, and deliverance that defines the Judges era and ask an uncomfortable question: are we really that different from the ancient Israelites? Connor walks through his own personal list of modern "false gods" — money, status, social media, political tribes — and Chase draws a powerful parallel between the NFL's zero-tolerance for repeated mistakes and God's infinite patience with His covenant people.

Josh brings the text to life with stories of left-handed Ehud, the unlikely warrior Jael, and a laugh-out-loud mission story that led to a baptism — proving that God works through our unique personalities, quirks, and even our sense of humor.

Connor Pay and Chase Roberts welcome BYU cheerleader and social media personality Ammon Montenegro to the podcast. Chase kicks things off with an inside look at life as an NFL rookie — grueling OTA schedules, thousand-page playbooks, and the constant pressure to perform every detail flawlessly. Then Ammon shares his remarkable journey: growing up as one of eleven kids in Las Vegas, playing football and wrestling, walking on at Snow College, serving a mission in Liberia, and ultimately feeling called to cheer at BYU — where he's now a three-year captain leading a team full of women with a whole new kind of courage.

The crew digs into Joshua 1–8 and the themes of strength, obedience, and taking a step of faith. They explore why God repeatedly told Joshua "be strong and of good courage," what it means that the River Jordan didn't part until the priests' feet hit the water, and how all three of them have had to walk into the unknown — whether that's a dusty road in West Africa, a new NFL playbook, or learning to lead in an entirely different way.

In this episode, hosts Connor Pay and Chase Roberts are joined by BYU offensive lineman Kyle Sfarcioc for a conversation that covers football, faith, and the journey in between.

Chase shares his exciting news: he just signed with the Las Vegas Raiders and is heading to mini camp immediately after recording.

Kyle opens up about his remarkable first year as a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. From his early skepticism when he arrived at BYU, to reading the Book of Mormon on planes flying home to be with his father, who was battling terminal illness. Kyle shares how faith gave him peace through one of the hardest seasons of his life and how that foundation has shaped who he is today.

The episode ties into the Come Follow Me study of Numbers 11–14, 20-24, and 27. The group unpacks the Israelites' patterns of complaining and fear, as well as how those same tendencies can show up in our own lives. The brazen serpent becomes a powerful symbol: sometimes all it takes is simply looking to the Savior.

In this week's episode, Connor and Chase sit down with American Fork head football coach Aaron Behm and his father-in-law, Scott McKinney, retired pastor of CenterPoint Church, for a conversation that moves from high school football to the Ten Commandments.

The group reflects on a "love first" mentality in high school football, shaping young athletes in an increasingly wicked world and the success story of the growth of Christianity as a whole in our society leads to a discussion about Exodus 19 and 20, focused on the Ten Commandments being a blueprint for a close relationship with God and a way to glorify him in our doings with our actions and talents.

Connor and Chase are back in the studio once again and have welcomed Kassidy Roberts, Chase's older sister, on the podcast to discuss thoughts and impressions from General Conference, as well as dive into this week's Come Follow Me covering Exodus 14-18.

They discuss Moses parting the Red Sea, as well as the habits that the Israelites continued to fall back on, even after witnessing miracles; murmuring and doubting God's hand in their lives. Connections are made to the latter days and how we can strive to recognize the miracles that God places in our path amid the struggles of everyday life.

Connor and Chase are back in the studio and welcome a special guest—Kassidy Roberts, Chase’s older sister—to join the conversation. Together, they share impressions from the most recent General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They also dive into this week’s Come, Follow Me study of Exodus 14–18. From Moses parting the Red Sea to the Israelites’ repeated struggles with murmuring and doubt—even after witnessing undeniable miracles—the discussion explores timeless patterns of faith and forgetfulness. The episode draws powerful connections to the latter days, inviting listeners to reflect on how we can better recognize God’s hand in our lives and see His miracles, even amid the challenges of everyday life.

In this special episode, hosts Connor Pay and Chase Roberts welcome very special guests — President and Sister Caplin, Connor's former mission president and his wife, now serving in the St. George Temple presidency — for an in-depth exploration of the Passover.

Drawing on President Caplin's unique background as a descendant of Jewish converts and a lifelong student of the Torah, the group unpacks the deep symbolism of the Passover — the sacrificial lamb, the Seder meal, the unleavened bread, the bitter herbs — and how each element points powerfully to Jesus Christ.

Connor Pay and Chase Roberts will be taking a break from the podcast this week to celebrate Easter and challenge listeners to share their favorite conference talks with them. You can send them a message on their Instagram page.

Co-Hosts Connor Pay and Chase Roberts welcome John Bytheway, the co-host of the "Follow Him" podcast, to dive into Exodus chapters 1 through 6. From the rise of a new Pharaoh who "knew not Joseph" to the burning bush and Moses' call to deliver Israel, this episode explores what it means to know who you are when the world — or the adversary — tries to tell you otherwise. The trio shares insights into the meaning of Moses' name, how Satan's first move is always an attack on identity, and what the Hebrew phrase "I Am That I Am" reveals about the nature of God.