Today’s teens are growing up in a world that looks dramatically different than it did even a decade ago—but have the principles they need to thrive really changed?

In this episode of Change Starts Here, Dustin sits down with Sean Covey, President of FranklinCovey Education and bestselling author of The 7 Habits of Highly Effective Teens, for a candid conversation about what today’s young people need most from the adults in their lives.

Drawing from his experience raising eight children, Sean shares hard-won lessons about connection, confidence, and knowing when to step back and let kids find their own way. He also takes us behind the scenes of The 7 Habits of Highly Effective Teens: A Graphic Novel, sharing how his own family experiences shaped the story, why timeless principles still resonate with today’s teens, and why the way we deliver those principles needs to evolve.

Whether you’re a parent, educator, or school leader, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.

Get Sean’s newest book, The 7 Habits of Highly Effective Teens: A Graphic Novel:

https://www.amazon.com/Habits-Highly-Effective-Teens-Graphic/dp/1668024926/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0

Host: Dustin Odham

Guest: Sean Covey, President of FranklinCovey Education

Timestamps: 

00:00 Cold open: hope for teens

00:34 Welcome to Change Starts Here

03:40 What humbled Sean as a parent

06:47 Trust, discipline, and apology

09:34 Why love is spelled time

11:20 Making time for one-on-one moments

15:48 Sharpening the saw in Moab

18:06 Modeling honesty over teaching it

21:07 How today's teens are different

24:11 Screen time, comparison, and mental health

26:09 What teens need most

29:26 Bringing the habits to life in a graphic novel

34:11 Victoria's story and the hope behind the habits

39:21 Using the book with your family

43:33 Raising free range chickens

46:03 The Leader in Me and the power of affirmation

48:26 Closing thoughts

In the season seven premiere of Change Starts Here, Dustin Odham asks a critical question: "What is the greatest threat to our leadership?" While it’s easy to point to external factors like budgets, teacher shortages, or politics, Dustin argues that the real danger lies within the internal conversations leaders have with themselves. Drawing on his own experiences, including a moment of deep reflection in a hospital bed, Dustin explores how leaders often mistake performance for identity, carrying the weight of unnecessary pressure.

Listeners will be challenged to evaluate their internal dialogue and consider whether they would allow someone to speak to their team the way they speak to themselves. This episode sets the tone for the upcoming season, emphasizing that healthy leadership begins from the inside out. By focusing on who they are becoming rather than just what they are accomplishing, leaders can build healthier cultures, achieve extraordinary results, and truly transform the lives of their students.

Host: Dustin Odham (FranklinCovey Education)

Timestamps: 

00:00 Podcast intro 

01:15 Building a community of leaders 

02:10 Leadership is a privilege 

03:38 The greatest threat to leadership 

05:03 The inner critic 

06:23 Carrying unnecessary pressure 

07:21 The hypocrisy of educational leaders 

08:21 Stephen Covey's Private Victory 

09:26 Why Dustin wears black 

11:34 A life-changing hospital stay 

12:32 Performance vs identity 

14:05 How do you speak to yourself? 

15:01 Change starts inside

In the season 6 finale of Change Starts Here, Dustin Odham invites educators and leaders to rethink their summer break. While taking time off is crucial for physical recovery, Dustin challenges listeners to aim for true renewal and clarity. By applying Dr. Covey's 7th Habit, "Sharpen the Saw," leaders can intentionally renew themselves mentally, physically, emotionally, and spiritually.

Listeners are challenged to take one uninterrupted day alone this summer to pause and reflect. Dustin guides leaders through a powerful internal process: starting with gratitude rather than problem-solving, identifying personal "genius" to avoid disconnecting from their true selves, and defining a lasting leadership legacy. By crafting or refining a personal mission statement, educators can ensure they return in the fall not just rested, but deeply intentional.

Download the Handout, Reflection and Mission Statement Guide: https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/csh_summer-reflectio?x=bfYNCN

Hosts:

Dustin Odham (FranklinCovey Education)

Timestamps:

00:00 Podcast intro

01:06 Wrapping up the season

02:28 The weight educators carry

03:20 Habit 7 Sharpen the saw

04:54 Start with gratitude

05:51 Reflect on your genius

06:52 Define your legacy

08:11 Your personal mission statement

09:19 Rest deeply and reflect

10:39 Closing the season

In this episode of Change Starts Here, Kim Yaris and Dr. Eve Miller explore how educators and leaders can effectively transition out of a demanding school year. Drawing on a Yale study, they discuss how a leader's ability to manage their own emotions directly impacts the well-being of their staff. Because of "emotion contagion theory," the emotional residue leaders carry out of the spring can set the tone for the entire school environment in the fall.

Listeners will discover why end-of-year recovery is an essential part of leadership, rather than optional self-care. The conversation highlights three research-backed practices: savoring positive moments to combat exhaustion , using narrative identity to make meaning of difficult experiences rather than ruminating on them , and engaging in the challenging but necessary practice of mentally disengaging from work. By leaning into self-compassion, educators can process the year, recover fully, and prepare a healthier emotional climate for the future.

Download the Handout:

https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/podcast_handout_s6e37?x=Z0wt6j

Hosts: 

Kim Yaris, M.Ed. Associate Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education

Dr. Eve Miller (Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education)

Timestamps:

00:00 Podcast intro

00:42 Transitions for adults

01:30 The reality of exhaustion

03:00 Yale wellbeing study

03:47 Emotion contagion theory

05:08 Recovery is leadership

06:06 Practice one savoring

08:52 When savoring matters most

09:58 The savoring prompt

11:06 Practice two narrative identity

13:58 Meaning making versus rumination

15:01 Three reflection questions

16:51 Practice three mental disengagement

18:36 Nervous system discomfort

19:38 The power of self-compassion

20:56 Closing thoughts

In this episode of Change Starts Here, Dustin Odham sits down with global leadership expert and executive coach Victoria Roos Olsson to discuss the importance of pausing at the end of a busy school year. While exhausted leaders often want to rush to the finish line or immediately tackle the next challenge, Victoria explains why using the end of a season for reflection is vital for sustainable success.

Listeners will discover how to ask more effective questions and evaluate the past year through creative exercises, such as having their team draw their experiences. Victoria also shares practical strategies for re-energizing staff, from conducting walking meetings to providing reflective summer assignments. Ultimately, this conversation serves as a powerful reminder that leadership is a human endeavor, and slowing down is often the key to moving forward effectively.

Get your copy of The 6 Critical Practices for Leading a Team:

https://www.amazon.com/Everyone-Deserves-Great-Manager-Practices/dp/1982112077 

Hosts:

Dustin Odham (Host)

Victoria Roos-Olssen. Global Leadership Expert, Executive Coach, & Bestselling Author 

Timestamps:

00:00 Podcast intro

02:46 Victoria's leadership journey

04:34 The power of reflection

08:16 Finishing the race strong

12:38 Questions as power tools

14:21 Drawing the school year

17:22 Re-energizing your team

21:16 The extended mind

24:44 Craving our own imbalances

29:16 Creating leadership habits

35:35 A healthy summer reset

38:37 Human side of leadership

42:03 Closing thoughts

In this episode of Change Starts Here, Kim Yaris and Dr. Eve Miller discuss the final weeks of the school year, a time typically filled with tying up loose ends, cleaning up, and the temptation to just pop in a movie. However, research shows that how a year ends disproportionately shapes how students will remember the entire experience.

Drawing on Daniel Kahneman's famous "peak-end rule" and Crystal Park's research on meaning-making, the hosts explain that it isn't enough for an ending to just be positive; it has to feel meaningful. Students who can articulate what they learned from turning points show higher well-being years later. To help educators end the year with intention, Kim and Eve offer two practical, research-backed moves: planning the last week backward from a final shared moment, and providing a structured reflection for students to make sense of their year.

Download the Handout

Handout: https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/podcast_handout_epis-35?x=whj9VQ

Hosts: 

Kim Yaris, M.Ed. (Associate Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education) 

Dr. Eve Miller (Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education)

Timestamps: 

00:00 Podcast intro 

00:15 The end of year 

01:22 Temptation to coast 

02:29 Why endings matter 

03:54 The peak end rule 

06:02 Remembering school years 

08:06 Meaning making research 

09:26 Practice one plan backward 

11:24 Practice two structured reflection 

13:21 The impact of reflection 

14:21 Closing thoughts

In this episode of Change Starts Here, Dustin Odham challenges the "spring fever" mentality that sweeps through schools during the final stretch of the year. Rather than just counting down the days and winding down expectations, Dustin urges leaders and educators to finish with intention. Sharing a powerful story about "legacy projects" at Mechanics Grove Elementary, he illustrates how giving students ownership and purpose can completely transform the energy of a building.

Reflect on what your students will truly remember about the school year and learn three simple, actionable moves to maximize the final 30 days: naming the moment to elevate its significance, creating ownership through contribution, and celebrating impact and effort over mere compliance. Make sure the end of the year feels meaningful, not just survived.

Host: Dustin Odham (FranklinCovey Education)

Timestamps:

00:00 The final stretch

00:37 The spring fever mindset

01:27 Legacy projects in action

01:59 What changed?

03:14 Making the end meaningful

03:45 What will they remember?

05:01 The year in review

06:12 Three actionable moves

07:15 Change how the story ends

08:42 Closing

In this episode of Change Starts Here, Kim Yaris and Dr. Eve Miller tackle a topic that leaves many educators feeling overwhelmed: Artificial Intelligence in schools. Looking past the sensational headlines, they dive deep into recent survey data from organizations like RAND, Pew, and Brookings to uncover the reality of how AI is actually showing up in classrooms.

The research reveals a startling truth, ignoring AI or instituting complete bans doesn't stop students from using these tools, it simply removes adult guidance. Kim and Eve discuss the phenomenon of "covert AI use," where both teachers and students are utilizing AI in secret due to a lack of clear policies and training. To help leaders navigate this massive shift, the hosts share three practical strategies that require no district mandate to implement: starting with student thinking before introducing the tool, visibly modeling imperfect AI use, and fiercely protecting the irreplaceable human skills of relationships and coaching.

Download the Handouts:

Handout: https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/podcast_handout_ep33?x=Dw_9TF

Staff Booster: https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/fy26_csh-rc_lim_staff-e33?x=Dw_9TF 

Hosts: 

Kim Yaris, M.Ed. (Associate Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education) 

Dr. Eve Miller (Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education)

Timestamps: 

(00:00 - 01:15) The AI conversation 

(01:15 - 02:53) Looking at the data 

(02:53 - 04:56) The AI policy landscape 

(04:56 - 07:37) Climbing student usage 

(07:37 - 10:27) Why schools stay silent 

(10:27 - 13:44) Covert AI use 

(13:44 - 15:53) The stakes of inaction 

(15:53 - 18:38) Practice 1: Thinking first 

(18:38 - 20:33) Practice 2: Visible use 

(20:33 - 21:53) Practice 3: Human skills 

(21:53 - 23:08) Closing thoughts

In this episode of Change Starts Here, Dustin Odham sits down with Todd Nesloney, Director of Culture and Strategic Leadership for the Texas Elementary Principals and Supervisors Association (TEPSA). Todd shares his insights on what a thriving school culture actually looks and feels like, going beyond test scores and bulletin boards to the fundamental human experiences of feeling seen, heard, and valued.

Todd gets real about his own transition from the classroom to school administration, challenging the "martyr complex" that leads so many passionate educators to burnout. He encourages leaders to embrace their authentic selves, treat adults with the same grace and connection they offer students, and to stop overcomplicating their roles. Listeners will walk away with practical advice on how to empower their teams, the importance of expanding their professional networks outside their own district, and the courage to take risks—and own the failures that follow.

Interested in the TEPSA Summer Conference? Learn more & register:

https://www.tepsa.org/summer-conference/summer-conference/ 

Connect with Todd: https://www.toddnesloney.com/ 

Host: Dustin Odham (FranklinCovey Education)

Guest: Todd Nesloney (Director of Culture and Strategic Leadership, TEPSA)

Timestamps: 

(00:00 - 02:46) Intro and welcome 

(02:46 - 05:01) Meet Todd Nesloney 

(05:01 - 08:16) Assessing school culture 

(08:16 - 12:45) Seen, heard, and valued 

(12:45 - 18:04) Finding the time for connection 

(18:04 - 23:14) The educator martyr complex 

(23:14 - 27:36) Redefining leadership meetings 

(27:36 - 32:29) Patterns of high performance 

(32:29 - 36:55) Teaching adults like kids 

(36:55 - 44:06) Empowering your team 

(44:06 - 47:35) Expand your network 

(47:35 - 51:56) Walk up songs 

(51:56 - 54:42) You are meant to be here

In this episode of Change Starts Here, Kim Yaris and Dr. Eve Miller dive into the critical topic of student well-being, especially relevant as climate survey data rolls in for the end of the year. While most schools measure happiness and meaningfulness, Dr. Miller highlights groundbreaking research by Erin Westgate and Shigehiro Oishi that introduces a third, often overlooked dimension: "psychological richness".

Listeners will discover what psychological richness is, experiences that fundamentally shift how you see the world, and why it is distinct from both happiness and meaning. The hosts explain how a school might score perfectly on happiness metrics while still leaving students feeling like they're just going through the motions. They offer three highly practical ways for educators to build psychological richness into their daily routines: asking the right reflective questions, making perspective shifts visible, and actively seeking out unfamiliar viewpoints.

Handout: https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/podcast_handout_epis-31?x=mRNVAO Staff Booster: https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/lim_staffbooster_epi31?x=mRNVAO

Hosts: 

Kim Yaris, M.Ed. (Associate Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education) 

Dr. Eve Miller (Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education)

Timestamps:

(00:00 - 01:42) School Climate surveys

(01:42 - 03:35) Psychological richness

(03:35 - 05:04) Richness vs rigor

(05:04 - 06:31) Tracking perspective change

(06:31 - 08:31) Why richness matters

(08:31 - 10:24) Missing wellbeing metrics

(10:24 - 11:48) Purpose and richness

(11:48 - 13:58) Practice 1: Add the third question

(13:58 - 16:01) Practice 2: Make the shift visible

(16:01 - 18:09) Practice 3: Unfamiliar perspectives

(18:09 - 19:49) Designing deliberately