This week on Olay & Friends, we break down the recent disagreement between Roland Martin and Charlamagne tha God over the government shutdown — where it came from, what’s driving it, and what it says about the state of Black media, ego, accountability, and the ever-shifting landscape of commentary online.

Chapters:0:002:35 Hello!/The Charlamagne Shutdown Comments6:05 Two Opinions From Problematic Persons10:06 The "Expert" Label & Who Gets to Claim It13:35 Roland: The Die Hard Democrat22:01 The Separation of Journalism From Media28:30 The Charlamagne Breakdown37:58 The Reorientation44:51 The Centralization & incentivization of General Media57:33 Are Media & Journalism Truly Separate?1:11:33 Creating Engagement in Multiple Perspectives From Journalism