In this week's episode of The Living Clean Podcast, we're sitting down with Charles K., who’s been a part of the recovery community since 1978. Charles shares his fascinating experiences from the literature conferences of the late '70s and early '80s—moments that helped shape the very literature many of us rely on today.

Along the way, we dive into Charles's personal journey, his reflections on the evolution of newer recovery texts, and just have an all-around great conversation that you won't want to miss. Join us as we explore a bit of the past, the present, and the enduring wisdom of someone who’s seen it all.