Dr. Changhua Wu, Acting Chair of the Governing Council of the Asia Pacific Water Forum and Senior Fellow of the Institute of Public Environmental Affairs, and Dr. Oscar Aghan, lead environment expert at the National Environment Management Authority (NEMA) in Kenya, join host Bridget Mutambirwa to discuss the landmark decision of COP28 to operationalize the new fund on loss and damage, climate funding, possibilities of phasing out fossil fuels, and how African countries have been collaborating with China to mitigate climate change.