We go again, day four, episode four, of Christmas Treats.

This time Phil and Ben are talking to radio's very own Mark Radcliffe, and Manchester music scene's Paul Langley, also known as UNE. They are also know for creating our theme music.

In this episode we hear about the beginnings of their friendship, their music UNE, and the Devilled the song you hear at the start of each episode of the podcast, as a well as a rambling chat about everything, including Peter Gabriel, what a treat.

See you tomorrow for the last of our week of treats.

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