Classical Education

About our Guests

Kevin Moore is an experienced educator of young learners as well as a respected instructional leader. Presently, Kevin's attention and energies are consumed by two ventures of which he is a Co-Founder, Long-View Micro-School and The Number Lab. Long-View Micro School is a STEM focused, highly innovative, learner-centered educational environment thoughtfully designed for upper elementary and middle-school-aged learners.  Through his work at Long-View, Kevin is committed to impacting the educational landscape locally by adding to the diversity of schooling options for families in Austin Texas. In his work with The Number Lab, Kevin helps to design and facilitate professional development seminars for teachers who provide mathematics instruction to young learners. These seminars are meant to help teachers strengthen their own conceptual understandings of mathematics and inspire a culture of learning in their classrooms that engages learners as mathematicians. Kevin’s work with The Number Lab connects him with educators throughout the United States and beyond. 

Kaylie White is an experienced educator at Long-View Learning, where she strives to transform mathematics education by working with both young learners and educators from across the country. Kaylie designs and leads learning experiences for young mathematicians at Long-View Micro School — a STEM-focused, highly innovative, learner-centered educational environment designed for upper elementary and middle-school-aged learners. Through Long-View’s teacher-facing work, Kaylie creates and facilitates professional development for teachers, including in-person workshops, Field Study Days at Long-View Micro School, and virtual coaching. She also leads the social media marketing for Long-View Learning. Kaylie is a bold, creative, and passionate educator who sees herself as a learner first. She eagerly works to collaborate with her team to continuously iterate and improve the learning experience for all. When she is not teaching and learning, Kaylie enjoys time with her husband and one-year-old son in Austin, Texas where they cook, hike, read, play soccer, and cheer on Austin FC.

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Website: long-view.com  

Professional Development from The Number Lab (Long-View Team)

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Show Notes

Adrienne and Trae interview two master teachers in mathematics from Long- View Micro School in Austin, Texas. While Long-View is a progressive school, they have discovered the truth of dialectis in the classroom. While they do not formally consider their methods as classical, and their terminology may be different than common terms in classical education, they truly embrace the art teaching math dialectically. 

Teaching math is not about state standards or facts and formulas to memorize, but rather it is a discipline that is engaging, interesting, and helps students learn thinking and communication skills which are common to the goals of classical education. 

Some topics in this episode include:

• The high abilities of children to wrestle with big ideas and participate in deep and meaningful work
• The importance of a healthy community of learners with teachers as facilitators who will challenge and mediate students through meaningful ideas
• Children need opportunities to grapple with complex ideas so that they can learn the art of dialectics (Longview school is not classical and does not call it the art of dialectics, but that is inadvertently what is being discussed). 
• Real understanding emerges from the messiness of learning how to be precise with good language, with communication, and with tapping into creative ways of solving problems.
• Setting a school culture where learning is a process that everyone does together.

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Books & Resources In This Episode
A Mathematician's Lament: How School Cheats Us Out of Our Most Fascinating and Imaginative Art Form by Paul Lockhart and Keith Devlin 

 
Visilbe Learning by John Hattie

Daring Greatly by Brené Brown

Learner-Centered Teaching by Maryellen Weimer

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About our Guest

Amy Sloan and her husband John are 2nd-generation homeschoolers to 5 children from 7 to 17 years old. The Sloan family adventures together in NC where they pursue a restfully-classical education. If you hang out with Amy for any length of time you’ll quickly learn that she loves overflowing book stacks, giant mugs of coffee, beautiful memory work, and silly memes. At any moment she could break into song and dance from Hamilton, 90s country music, or Shakespeare. Amy writes at HumilityandDoxology.com and hosts the  “Homeschool Conversations with Humility and Doxology” podcast.

Follow Amy on her website Humility & Doxology and her podcast Homeschool Conversations.

Show Notes

Adrienne interviews Amy and discusses the ins and outs of homeschooling. Amy shares her experience as a second generation homeschooler. She discusses how classical education shaped her life as a student and now as a homeschool mom.  Many golden nuggets of wisdom are shared between Adrienne and Amy as they explain the common experiencs typical in the life of a homeschooler. Listen and be encouraged not to give up or to seriously consider homeschooling as a solid educational choice for your family. 

Some topics in this episode include:

• The hard realities in homeschooling
• Prioritizing sibling frienships in a homeschool
• The common stresses in most homeschools
• Cultivating integrative learning: being purposeful to connect all the subjects
• The Christian classical idea of teaching with a spirit of humility
• Amy discusses the end goals to help answer the question, "why should I homeschool?".
• How to consider outsourcing needs and options as a homeschool

Books & Resources In This Episode

Missy Andrew's memoir, My Divine Comedy
The Liberal Arts Tradition by Clark and Jain
Better Together by Pam Barnhill
Teaching From Rest by Sarah MacKenzie
For the Children's Sake by Susan Schaeffer Mcaulay

Podcasts from Homeschool Conversations mentioned in this episode as most helpful for getting started in homeschooling:

• Dr. George Grant interview
• Ann Karako Interview
• Jami Marstall interview
• Pam Barnill and Heather Tully interview
• Karen Glass Interview
• Adrienne Freas Interview
• Cindy Rollins Interview

Curriculum Mentioned:
Sonlight Curriculum
AmblesideOnline Curriculum
Saxon Math
Math-U-See
RightStart Math

The quote that Amy shared:

"What we suffer from today is humility in the wrong place. Modesty has moved from the organ of ambition. Modesty has settled upon the organ of conviction where it was never meant to be. A man was meant to be doubtful about himself, but undoubting about the truth. This has been exactly reversed. Nowadays the part of a man that a man does assert is exactly the part he ought not to assert, himself. The part he doubts is exactly the part he ought not to doubt, the divine reason. Huxley preached a humility content to learn from nature, but the new skeptic is so humble that he doubts if he can even learn. Thus, we should be wrong if we had said hastily that there is no humility typical of our time. The truth is there is a real humility typical of our time, but it so happens that it is practically a more poisonous humility than the wildest protrations of the aesthetic. The old humility was a spur that prevented a man from stopping, not a nail in his boot that prevented him from going on. For the old humility made a man doubtful about his efforts which might make him work harder. But the new humility makes a man doubtful about his aims, which will make him stop working altogether."
- G.K. Chesteron, Orthodoxy (ch. 3)

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Guest Biographies

Dr. Laura Eidt received her BA in English Literature and Linguistics from the University of Hamburg (Germany) and her MA and Ph.D. in Comparative Literature from the University of Texas at Austin. She has been teaching Spanish, German, Comparative Literature, and Humanities at the University of Dallas since 2006 and has published on German and Spanish poetry and on ekphrasis. For many years she taught an applied foreign language pedagogy class that sent students to local area schools to teach their language to elementary children, and she was a mentor at a bilingual school in Dallas for four years. Her courses include classes on foreign language pedagogy, teaching classical children’s literature, and great works in the modern world. She is the faculty advisor for UD's Classical Curriculum team and is currently writing a Latin curriculum for K-5rd grade.

Robin Johnston

Robin Ann Johnston is a daughter, sister, wife, mother of five, grandmother of four (so far,) and a convert to Catholicism.  She graduated from Loyola University of New Orleans in 1985, cum laude, with a bachelor's degree in Cognitive Psychology and a minor in music. When her children were all old enough to go to school, she returned to the workforce as a teacher for Mount St. Michael Catholic School (MSMCS) in south Dallas. Robin taught mostly ELAR and World History during her years there, for grades ranging from 4th to 12th. As the lead middle-school teacher, she was instrumental in transitioning the school’s culture and curriculum instruction to a classical model. During those decades, Robin was given the “Work of Heart” award for excellence in teaching (twice) by the Catholic Diocese of Dallas.  After retiring from teaching full time, she began writing classical ELAR and Humanities curriculum lessons and novel study guides. Robin’s passion is for igniting students’ hearts with a love for learning and helping teachers have a toolbox of ideas that are easy to use while making a real difference in the classroom.  She is now working on a master's degree in Humanities and Classical Education. In her free time, she likes to craft, read, swim, and, along with her husband of 35 years, babysit the grandchildren. 

Show Notes

In this episode, Adrienne, Robin, and Laura continue their conversation on teaching literature. They delve deep into the art of narration, responding to common objections, and ways to use narration as a life-giving assessment.     

Some topics and ideas in this episode include:

• How to Assess Narrations
• Read-Aloud Recommendations
• Modeling Delight and Play Through Narration 
• What is a “living book”?
• Is Narration Just a Tool? 
• What About Violence in Fairy Tales? 
• Book Recommendations for Pre-K - Elementary, Middle School, and High School  

Resources and Books & Mentioned In This Episode

• The Chronicles of Narnia by C.S. Lewis
• Institutes of Oratory: or, Education of an Orator by Quintilian 

Pre-K - 5 

• Eric Carle 
• Jan Brett
• Tasha Tudor 
• Jerry Pickney 
• Astrid Lindgren (Dr. Eidt’s favorite) 
• George MacDonald 
  • The Princess and the Goblin (Librivox Recording) 
  • The Wise Women 
  • Undine 
• The Complete Tales of Winnie The Pooh by A.A. Milne 
  • Audio Drama with Judy Dench, Stephen Fry, et al. 
• Rabbit Ears Radio 
• Barbara Cooney 
• Ingrid D'Aulaires
• William Steig 
• Beatrix Potter

Guest Biographies

Dr. Laura Eidt received her BA in English Literature and Linguistics from the University of Hamburg (Germany) and her MA and Ph.D. in Comparative Literature from the University of Texas at Austin. She has been teaching Spanish, German, Comparative Literature, and Humanities at the University of Dallas since 2006 and has published on German and Spanish poetry and on ekphrasis. For many years she taught an applied foreign language pedagogy class that sent students to local area schools to teach their language to elementary children, and she was a mentor at a bilingual school in Dallas for four years. Her courses include classes on foreign language pedagogy, teaching classical children’s literature, and great works in the modern world. She is the faculty advisor for UD's Classical Curriculum team and is currently writing a Latin curriculum for K-5rd grade.

Robin Johnston
Robin Ann Johnston is a daughter, sister, wife, mother of five, grandmother of four (so far,) and a convert to Catholicism.  She graduated from Loyola University of New Orleans in 1985, cum laude, with a bachelor's degree in Cognitive Psychology and a minor in music. When her children were all old enough to go to school, she returned to the workforce as a teacher for Mount St. Michael Catholic School (MSMCS) in south Dallas. Robin taught mostly ELAR and World History during her years there, for grades ranging from 4th to 12th. As the lead middle-school teacher, she was instrumental in transitioning the school’s culture and curriculum instruction to a classical model. During those decades, Robin was given the “Work of Heart” award for excellence in teaching (twice) by the Catholic Diocese of Dallas.  After retiring from teaching full time, she began writing classical ELAR and Humanities curriculum lessons and novel study guides. Robin’s passion is for igniting students’ hearts with a love for learning and helping teachers have a toolbox of ideas that are easy to use while making a real difference in the classroom.  She is now working on a master's degree in Humanities and Classical Education. In her free time, she likes to craft, read, swim, and, along with her husband of 35 years, babysit the grandchildren. 

Show Notes
In part one of this two-part episode, we reconsider the foundations of good reading with the help of influential thinkers like C.S. Lewis and Mortimer Adler and think about how an overabundance of “screen time” paired with modern “reading strategies” and a focus on “college prep” pale in comparison to the potential for life transformation within the classical tradition.   

Some topics and readings in this episode include:
How can we become good readers?
Why is beauty harder to analyze than truth?
What role should “vocabulary words” play in our approach to teaching literature?
“College Prep” vs. Pursuit of Transcendence
Reading and the Fear of Grades
The Role of Morals and Virtues in Teaching Literature
The Origin and Place of Plot Analysis
Is it ever ok to skim when reading?
Narration and Picture Study

Readings and Resources
An Experiment in Criticism by C.S. Lewis 

How to Read a Book by Mortimer Adler 

Walking on Water by Madeleine L’Engle

“Introduction to Poetry” by Billy Collins 

Heidi by Johanna Spyri

Aesop’s Fables 

Little Red Ride Hood  
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Sound Engineer: Andrew Helsel

Logo Art: Anastasiya CF

Music: Vivaldi's Concerto for 2 Violins in B flat major, RV529 : Lana Trotovsek, violin Sreten Krstic, violin with Chamber Orchestra of Slovenian Philharmonic

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About Our Guest

Mariah Martinez has worked in education since 2015 as a teacher, curriculum developer, and mentor teacher. Mariah was introduced to a progressive version of classical education through her high school's International Baccalaureate program. She was later immersed in a traditional classical atmosphere through her honors program in college. Mariah attended the Honors College at Houston Baptist University, where she received a B.A., double majoring in philosophy and English. She also holds an M.A. in humanities with a concentration in classical education from the University of Dallas. She is certified as a 7-12 ELAR instructor in Texas with an additional ELL (English Language Learner) supplement. Currently, she teaches at a Founders Classical charter school in Northeast Texas and works as a freelance consultant for Beautiful Teaching. 

Show Notes

In this episode, Adrienne, Trae, and Mariah have a wide-ranging conversation about establishing the proper relationship between teacher, student, and text. Mariah is admittedly not the "fun teacher." Still, students enjoy her classes, make discoveries in her classroom, and learn to take up a posture of humility and understanding toward the stories and ideas she teaches.            

Some topics and ideas in this episode include:

• Rewards and Risks of Class Discussions 
• How to Respond to Ideological Comments
• How to Foster a Posture of Understanding 
• The Role of Narrative Across Subjects
• Avoiding the Infantilization of Teenagers
• An Engaging Approach to Narration  
• Mariah's Online Course - Teaching Disputation: Well-ordered Thinking for a Disordered World 

Resources and Books & Mentioned In This Episode

• The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri
• "The Passionate Shepherd to His Love" by Christopher Marlowe
  Beautiful Teaching Online Courses 

Mariah's Favorite Quote:  

"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation." 

– Henry David Thoreau
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Sound Engineer: Andrew Helsel

Logo Art: Anastasiya CF

Music: Used with permission. cellists: Sara Sant' Ambrogio and Lexine Feng; pianist: Alyona Waldo

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About Our Guest

Kiernan Fiore has worked as a teacher, administrator, teacher trainer, and curriculum developer since 2011. After receiving a Charlotte Mason classical home education, she earned a BA in English (summa cum laude) from Hillsdale College and an MA in English (Merit) from King's College, London. She is certified in 4-8th Grade ELAR and Social Studies in Texas. She began her teaching career at a private Charlotte Mason school and since then has worked in private, charter, and virtual schools to promote the benefits of classical education. Currently, she works as a freelance consultant for Beautiful Teaching and writes for the City of Ladies newsletter. 

Show Notes

In this episode, Adrienne and Trae enter into a critique of neoclassical education, joined by Kiernan Fiore. Together, they consider how educators in the renewal of classical education can reflect on how the wholesale adoption and systematizing of one Dorthy Sayers essay has led to critical departures from the tradition. 

In this conversation, we claim that Charlotte Mason affirmed and restored person-honoring principles and practices from the classical tradition in her time. We also point out that neoclassical education in practice tends to suffer from a pragmatism inherited from progressive philosophies of education. Finally, Kiernan paints a beautiful picture of the proper relationship between systematic lesson planning and teaching in the spirit of classical education. 

Some topics and ideas in this episode include:

• Classical vs. Neoclassical 
• Classical Education Appropriate for Our Time 
• State and Societal Pressures on Parents and Teachers 
• Teaching Classically in a Nonclassical School 
• The Christian baptism of classical education 
• Neoclassical vs. Classical Narration 
• Systems vs. Conversations within Relationships 
• Narration as Assessment or Art? 
• Lesson Planning in the Spirit of Classical Education 

Resources and Books & Mentioned In This Episode

• “The Lost Tools of Learning” by Dorthy Sayers  
• Jason Barney on Charlotte Mason, Modern Science, and The Classical Tradition
• “Mending Wall” by Robert Frost 
• Beautiful Teaching Online Courses 

Kiernan’s Favorite Quote:  

"Education is an atmosphere, a discipline, and a life." 

- Charlotte Mason’s Parents' National Educational Union motto 

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Sound Engineer: Andrew Helsel

Logo Art: Anastasiya CF

Music: Used with permission. cellists: Sara Sant' Ambrogio and Lexine Feng; pianist: Alyona Waldo

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About Our Guest

Jason Caros serves as the headmaster at Founders Classical Academy. He graduated from Florida State University, earning a Bachelor of Arts with concentrations in History and Religion. He also holds a Master's Degree in Educational Leadership from Nova Southeastern University. 

Mr. Caros was a high school history teacher and a district-level curriculum administrator for more than fifteen years. In 2012, he was selected by Hillsdale College's Barney Charter School Initiative and Responsive Education Solutions to serve as the first headmaster of Founders Classical Academy, a K-12 grade classical charter school in Lewisville, TX.  Mr. Caros attributes the growth and success of the school to the efforts of an excellent faculty and staff, supportive parents, dedicated students, and the work of its parent organization, Responsive Ed. In addition to his headmaster duties, Mr. Caros loves to teach his high school Western Civilization I class. Mr. Caros lives in Flower Mound with his wife and children; his daughter is a Founders alumna, and his son attends Founders as a rising junior.

Show Notes
In this episode, Adrienne and Trae meet with headmaster Jason Caros to discuss the American Classical Charter School model. Founded initially as a Barney Charter School Initiative in American Classical Education, Founders Classical Academy in Lewisville, Texas, is an example of a thriving charter school. They are part of the Responsive Education Solutions (RES) charter schools community with a mission to provide education options that promote a free society with moral and academic excellence. 

Mr. Caros shares stories about how a love of learning and reading paired with patriotism bring his community together. Mr. Caros describes how commencements, holiday programs, and events focused on civic virtue give shape and meaning to the life of his school.  

Furthermore, Mr. Caros explores the qualities of a good teacher pertaining to the classical categories of Logos, Pathos, and Ethos. Mr. Caros explains how the stability of his school rests on consistency in the faculty and maintaining ongoing alumni relationships. 

Some questions in this episode include:

• What are the qualities of a good headmaster?
• How do you foster deep conversations in pursuit of the highest good in your particular context?
• What is at the heart of American Classical Education?
• How do you retain teachers?
• How do you support your faculty?

Resources and Books & Mentioned In This Episode

Dante’s Inferno by Dante Alighieri

Paradise Lost by John Milton

The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri

Shakespearean Plays by William Shakespeare 

The Abolition of Man by C.S. Lewis

Nicomachean Ethics by Aristotle

Republic by Plato

Cicero by Plutarch

The Roots of the American Order by Russell Kirk

Video: Jordan Peterson interviews Yeonmi Park

The Bill of Rights

The Constitution of the United States of America 

The Restoration of Christian Culture by John Senior

Norms and Nobility: A Treatise on Education by David V. Hicks

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Sound Engineer: Andrew Helsel

Logo Art: Anastasiya CF

Music: Used with permission. cellists: SaraSant'' Ambrogio and Lexine Feng; pianist: Alyona Waldo

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About our Guest

Mr. Barney serves as the Principal of Coram Deo Academy in Carmel, IN. In 2012 he was awarded the Henry Salvatori Prize for Excellence in Teaching from Hillsdale College. He completed his MA in Biblical Exegesis at Wheaton College, receiving The Tenney Award in New Testament Studies. Before coming into his current position, Jason served as the Academic Dean at Clapham School, a classical Christian school in Wheaton, IL. In addition to his administrative responsibilities in vision, philosophy, and faculty training, Jason has taught courses in Latin, Humanities, and Senior Thesis from 3rd-12th grades. He regularly speaks at events and conferences, including SCL, ACCS, and the CiRCE Institute. He has published A Classical Guide to Narration with the CiRCE Institute and A Short History of Narration through Educational Renaissance, where he blogs regularly on ancient wisdom for the modern era.

Show Notes

Jason Barney places Charlotte Mason squarely within the classical tradition. In this conversation, Jason points to multiple attestations within the classical tradition and contemporary science that demonstrate that Mason was on to something right in her philosophy and practices. 

In our conversation, Jason lays out some of the problems with the modern factory education model. He explains how the art of narration fosters what contemporary scientists call "durable learning" or deep and lasting knowledge retention. Jason also takes on Bloom's Taxonomy and explains how it risks enshrining the teacher in modernism when they would be better served reading The Abolition of Man. 

Some topics in this episode include:

Charlotte Mason and the Classical Tradition 

Modern Education Movements: Ruseau, Pestalozzi, John Lock, Monstasori 

Lessons from Contemporary Psychology and Neuroscience 

Narration, Retrieval Practice, and Durable Learning 

Practicing Narration in the Classroom 

Why Students Can't recall What They Just Read/Heard

Problems With the Factory Model of Education 

Narration Leading to Good Conversations

Problems with Blooms Taxonomy

Making Time to Read  

Resources and Books & Mentioned In This Episode

A Short History of Narration 

A Classical Guide to Narration 

Educational Renaissance on Charlotte Mason 

Bonus Podcast 

Jason and I continued our conversation and talked in-depth about one of his favorite books for teachers, Teach Like A Champion by Doug Lemov. If you want to listen to that conversation, please support us on Patreon. 

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Sound Engineer: Andrew Helsel

Logo Art: Anastasiya CF

Music: Used with permission. cellists: Sara Sant' Ambrogio and Lexine Feng; pianist: Alyona Waldo

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About our Guest
Karen Glass is part of the Advisory of AmblesideOnline. She has four children, ages 13 to 27, who have been homeschooled using Charlotte Mason’s methods from beginning to end.  Karen has been studying and writing about Charlotte Mason and Classical Education for over twenty years and has written the popular books Consider This: Charlotte Mason and The Classical Tradition and Know and Tell: The Art of Narration. Her newest book, In Vital Harmony, is a seminal work for anyone wanting to discover the beauty of humane education in keeping with the spirit and the tradition of classical education.

Online Consulting and Courses with Karen
Karen also serves as a consultant for our podcast support team, Beautiful Teaching: Consulting in Classical Education.
She leads a book study for our listeners through our online sessions. More is coming soon! Click here to Subscribe to our newsletter so you can receive up-to-date information about more sessions Karen will be leading in the near future. 

Show Notes
How we posture ourselves as questioners or learners matters. As an example, Karen points to the serpent in the Garden with Eve and then God's response and what we can learn from these kinds of stories. We also discuss maieutic questioning and the role it plays in coaching students well. There are many problems with reading comprehension questions and how they interfere with natural connections between author and reader.

At the heart of questions, we must begin with two questions: "What is a person?" and "What is education?"

Some topics in this episode include:

• Sometimes, the question is more important than the answer. What happens to an answer when the right question does not precede it?
• What are Socratic questions, and what are common mistakes with Socratic questions?
• How questions create a mental posture
• How does the relationship between question and answer influence the relationship between student and teacher?
• What is a person, and what is education? 
• What kind of curriculum should I buy for homeschooling? 
• What is a philosophy of education? 
• What is the relationship between caring and asking questions?

Resources and Books & Mentioned In This Episode
Plato's Dialogues
Theaetetus
Charlotte Mason Exam Questions
A Philosophy of Education by Charlotte Mason
The Bible

Favorite Quotes
Medieval Philosophy: Selections from Modern Library Collection a quote from Hugh of St. Victor's Didascalicon

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Sound Engineer: Andrew Helsel

Logo Art: Anastasiya CF

Music: Used with permission. cellists: Sara Sant' Ambrogio and Lexine Feng; pianist: Alyona Waldo

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About our Guests

Dr. Dave Rose is a Professor of Economics at the University of Missouri-St. Louis. He received his Ph.D. in Economics in 1987 from the University of Virginia. His primary areas of research interest are behavioral economics, political economy, and organization theory. He has published scholarly articles in a wide range of areas. His work has been funded by the National Institute of Mental Health, the Weldon Spring Foundation, the HFL Foundation, the Earhart Foundation, and the John R. Templeton Foundation. He is currently in his second term on the U.S. Civil Rights Commission. In 2008 he received the St. Louis Business Journal’s Economic Educator of the year award. His book, The Moral Foundation of Economic Behavior, was selected one of CHOICE’s outstanding titles of 2012. His newest book, Why Culture Matters Most, is also from Oxford University Press. He frequently contributes to policy debates through radio and television interviews as well as in Op-Eds on topics ranging from social security, monetary policy, fiscal policy, judicial philosophy, education reform, healthcare reform, and freedom of speech. 

Dr. Lawrence W. (“Larry”) Reed became President of the Foundation for Economic Education (FEE) in 2008 after serving as chairman of its board of trustees in the 1990s and both writing and speaking for FEE since the late 1970s. He previously served for 21 years as President of the Mackinac Center for Public Policy in Midland, Michigan (1987-2008). He also taught economics full-time from 1977 to 1984 at Northwood University in Michigan and chaired its department of economics from 1982 to 1984.

In May 2019, he retired to the role of President Emeritus at FEE and assumed the titles of Humphreys Family Senior Fellow, and Ron Manners Global Ambassador for Liberty. 

He holds a B.A. in economics from Grove City College (1975) and an M.A. degree in history from Slippery Rock State University (1978), both in Pennsylvania. He holds two honorary doctorates, one from Central Michigan University (public administration, 1993) and Northwood University (laws, 2008).

Show Notes

Dr. Rose and Dr. Reed join Adrienne and Trae to discuss the foundation of a good education in civics and economics: cooperation and trust rooted in moral beliefs and lived out by ethical people in the family and society. 

We delve into the role of stories in economics class, preserving traditional practices and restoring home economics. 

For the civics and economics teachers, our guests help us see why preferring old stories to current events is best and why it's not necessarily the classroom teacher’s job to show students how to balance their checking accounts. 

Some topics in this episode include:

The Relationship between Parenting, Culture, Civics, and Economics 

Framing Economics as Cooperation 

Self-governance in Classical Education 

The Family and Home Economics 

Moral Believes and Trust in the Family and Society 

The Role of Stories in Moral Education 

Humane Economics and Traditional Practices 

Gratitude and Service to Others 

Prudence and Democracy 

The Value of Failure 

How to Avoid “Bumper Sticker Pedagogy” 

Resources and Books & Mentioned In This Episode

Why Culture Matters, David Rose 

Real Heroes, Lawrence Reed 

Economics in One Lesson, Henry Hazlitt

Basic Economics, Thomas Sowell 

Cinderella Man, Ron Howard (Director)

The Whistle, Benjamin Franklin 

Aesop’s Fables, Aesop 

“The Economics of Splitting Wood By Hand,” John Cuddeback 

A Conflict of Visions, Thomas Sowell

Dr. Reed’s Website 

Passion’s Within Reason,  Robert H. Frank 

The Memory Book, Harry Lorayne and Jerry Lucas

Favorite Books and Quotes 

Dr. Rose’s book that he wishes he had read sooner:

A Conflict of Visions, Thomas Sowell  

Dr. Reed’s favorite quote (corrected): 

“The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design.” - David Hayek

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Sound Engineer: Andrew Helsel

Logo Art: Anastasiya CF

Music: Used with permission. cellists: Sara Sant' Ambrogio and Lexine Feng; pianist: Alyona Waldo

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