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“Just transfer the shares to me!”
Years ago, mum and dad incorporated a Co and, among other things, became shareholders of the Co’s Class “A” voting shares: [10]
“You fired me just to get my Co’s shares at a discount!”
Y owned and controlled a Co, P.
“Just keep those assets frozen a little longer…”
P was an owners corporation that owned the common property in a building.
“Our agreement was for a bigger easement!”
In 2008 and then 2010, a developer, N, entered into agreements with adjoining landowners including V to develop some land: [2]
“The proceedings were dismissed, so pay my costs!”
James sat down to speak with Dean Cosgrove of Griffith University Law Society (GULS) in June and had a great chat about how the life of a commercial litigator works.
You can find GULS on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/company/griffith-university-law-society
And you can find the GULS Law Student podcast wherever you get your podcasts!
"We settled those other debts, but you still owe me this one!"
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A joint venture of some complexity fell apart, as they sometimes do.
The relevant parties entered into a “Termination Agreement” dealing with the fallout.
P sued D for a debt of £500K. D said that debt was discharged by operation of the Termination Agreement: accord and satisfaction.
P and D’s commercial relationship was somewhat colourful. P and P’s spouse invested substantial sums with the D - over US$15m - over a number of years: [2] - [23]
The sole issue was: was the £500K debt among the debts released via the Termination Agreement, or did D still have to repay it?
The Termination Agreement included that assets were to be transferred to P “… in full and final satisfaction of all rights, claims or interests [P] may have in respect of the Joint Venture and all payment obligations which any [other relevant entities] may have to [P] and/or to any person not party to this Agreement and associated with [P].”: [24]
The Court found the purpose of the £500K loan was personal, and did not relate to the joint venture: [46]
Over subsequent years the £500K loan was referred to as the “personal loan” in correspondence between the parties: [47] - [58]
P said the Termination Agreement related to the joint venture and, as the £500K loan was not part of that venture, the agreement had no effect on it: [70]
D, perhaps unsurprisingly, took the opposite view: [72]
The court considered the clause’s two limbs. The first limb (the above extract up to the word “and”) was found to relate to the joint venture: [82]
The second limb had no such restriction: [84]
P submitted that various email exchanges showed the parties’ true intent in entering into the Termination Agreement was to deal solely with joint venture issues. The Court identified these exchanges as negotiation rather than binding terms and said the common objectives are best taken from the Termination Agreement itself, not earlier emails: [109]
The Court found that on a proper construction the £500K loan fit within the description of a “payment obligation” under the Termination Agreement (the second limb) meaning the D had no obligation to pay: [115]
“Stop that Co from selling shares. Right now!”
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P (who, incidentally, was the Australian corporations regulator, ASIC) commenced proceedings against a Co, and others, seeking to wind up the Co and - in the meantime - freeze the Co’s assets.
“Let’s get our company to buy a block of land. I’ll take some and you can have… none?”
On appeal, the Court found that there was indeed a binding obligation in those terms: [37]
James spoke with Lucy in 2021 and they had a wide-ranging chat about James' approach to leveraging social media to build a legal practice, and how he feels like the term "innovative" may not necessarily suit him!
We hope you enjoy this fun chat!
You can catch Lucy's podcast everywhere you get your pods and her website is here: https://www.lucydickens.com.au/doing-law-differently/
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