When a criminal defendant gets the death penalty it can feel like a life sentence to the families of the victims. Amy and Sheryl speak with Matt Hunsaker, whose mother, Maurine Hunsaker, was murdered when he was 10 years old in 1986. The ladies also speak with former capital case defense attorney Mark Moffat about the state of the death penalty in Utah. Lastly, Amy and Sheryl talk about what it's like to witness a firing squad execution, which they've each done.

Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Three ladies, Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley will talk about weighty issues like sexual assault, the death penalty and failures of the criminal justice system. The goal is more conversation and more understanding.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

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 If you or someone close to you has experienced rape or any other form of sexual abuse, you can go to RAINN.org to connect with free resources anywhere in the United States. 

 Episode credits: 

• Hosts: Amy Donaldson, Sheryl Worsley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

 

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The stakes are set for Doug Lovell as he heads toward trial for the murder of Joyce Yost. The capital murder charge carries a potential sentence of death. His only leverage: returning Joyce's body to her family. Doug makes a deal as the clock winds down, promising to lead police to Joyce's grave. Will he really follow through?

Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Then, she vanished. Joyce has never been found. Now, investigative journalist Dave Cawley delves into the decades-old case to uncover the details of a murder-for-hire plot to silence Joyce. Cold reveals flaws in the system that left Joyce unprotected, examines pitfalls of the death penalty and asks if there’s such a thing as justice for Joyce Yost.

Survivors of rape, sexual abuse and sexual assault and their allies in the United States can connect with free resources at https://www.rainn.org/.

See photos, files and more for this episode: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2/ep-9-high-fidelity-beer-for-doug-lovell/

Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2-transcript/high-fidelity-full-transcript/

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Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• Additional voices: Richie Steadman (as Doug Lovell)
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Cold main score mixing: Dan Blanck
• KSL executive producers: Sheryl Worsley, Keira Farrimond
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

If you enjoy Cold, please try these other great shows from KSL Podcasts: The Letter, Ransom, Unsolved Histories

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What is it like to work as a detective investigating Cold cases? Amy Donaldson and Sheryl Worsley sat down with Special Agent Brian Davis of the Utah State Bureau of Investigation and member of the state's new Cold Case Unit. He discusses what it's like to investigate a murder when there is no body and the biggest, most rewarding case of his career.

 

Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Three ladies, Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley will talk about weighty issues like sexual assault, the death penalty and failures of the criminal justice system. The goal is more conversation and more understanding.

 

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If you or someone close to you has experienced rape or any other form of sexual abuse, you can go to RAINN.org to connect with free resources anywhere in the United States.

 

Follow Cold Season 3: The Search for Sheree wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all 10 episodes ad-free only on Amazon Music. Or you can listen early and ad-free on Wondery+ in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery App. Cold season 2 is available on Amazon Music, Wondery+ in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery app. Listen to Cold season 1 wherever you get your podcasts. You can also ask Alexa to play the Cold podcast on your Echo device.

 

 Episode credits: 

• Hosts: Amy Donaldson, Sheryl Worsley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

 

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A reckoning comes for Doug Lovell, in the form of a capital murder charge. In a never-before-public audio recording, Sgt. Terry Carpenter confronts Doug about the murder of Joyce Yost. The walls close in and Doug turns to his confidant and co-conspirator: his ex-wife Rhonda Buttars. He doesn't realize Rhonda has obtained immunity and is working against him.

Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Then, she vanished. Joyce has never been found. Now, investigative journalist Dave Cawley delves into the decades-old case to uncover the details of a murder-for-hire plot to silence Joyce. Cold reveals flaws in the system that left Joyce unprotected, examines pitfalls of the death penalty and asks if there’s such a thing as justice for Joyce Yost.

Survivors of rape, sexual abuse and sexual assault and their allies in the United States can connect with free resources at https://www.rainn.org/.

See photos, files and more for this episode: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2/ep-8-help-me-rhonda-doug-lovells-stolen-guns/

Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2-transcript/help-me-rhonda-full-transcript/

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Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• Additional voices: Richie Steadman (as Doug Lovell)
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Cold main score mixing: Dan Blanck
• KSL executive producers: Sheryl Worsley, Keira Farrimond
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

If you enjoy Cold, please try these other great shows from KSL Podcasts: The Letter, Ransom, Unsolved Histories

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A prison snitch can sometimes provide vital leads about a case, but is it always reliable information? Amy Donaldson and Ann Dent talk with former Salt Lake Police chief Chris Burbank about the pros and cons of information coming from a suspected criminal. Chris currently serves on a national level as the Vice President of law enforcement strategy for the Center for Policing Equity.

Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Three ladies, Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley will talk about weighty issues like sexual assault, the death penalty and failures of the criminal justice system. The goal is more conversation and more understanding.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

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If you or someone close to you has experienced rape or any other form of sexual abuse, you can go to RAINN.org to connect with free resources anywhere in the United States.

Episode credits: 

• Hosts: Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

 

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More than five years have passed since Joyce Yost disappeared. A judge declares her deceased in the eyes of the law, even without her body as evidence of a murder. South Ogden police Sgt. Terry Carpenter receives a surprise tip from a prison informant, who suggests Doug Lovell might have played a role not only in Joyce Yost's murder but also in the disappearance of another Ogden-area woman.

Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Then, she vanished. Joyce has never been found. Now, investigative journalist Dave Cawley delves into the decades-old case to uncover the details of a murder-for-hire plot to silence Joyce. Cold reveals flaws in the system that left Joyce unprotected, examines pitfalls of the death penalty and asks if there’s such a thing as justice for Joyce Yost.

Survivors of rape, sexual abuse and sexual assault and their allies in the United States can connect with free resources at https://www.rainn.org/.

See photos, files and more for this episode: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2/ep-7-shameless-doug-lovell-audio-recording/

Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2-transcript/shameless-full-transcript/

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Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• Additional voices: Andy Farnsworth (as Jeff Pratt), Richie Steadman (as Doug Lovell)
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Cold main score mixing: Dan Blanck
• KSL executive producers: Sheryl Worsley, Keira Farrimond
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

If you enjoy Cold, please try these other great shows from KSL Podcasts: The Letter, Ransom, Unsolved Histories

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An immunity deal becomes a major development in the disappearance of Joyce Yost. Hosts Amy Donaldson and Sheryl Worsley talk with Davis County Attorney Troy Rawlings about when it is and when it isn't a good idea to promise immunity. Doug Lovell got out of prison early thanks to the Utah Board of Pardons and Parole. The ladies also speak with former Board of Pardons chair Mike Sibbits about deciding to let inmates out early.

Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Three ladies, Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley will talk about weighty issues like sexual assault, the death penalty and failures of the criminal justice system. The goal is more conversation and more understanding.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

Share your perspective. #JusticeForJoyceYost #TalkingCold Twitter Instagram Facebook

If you or someone close to you has experienced rape or any other form of sexual abuse, you can go to RAINN.org to connect with free resources anywhere in the United States.

Episode credits: 

• Hosts: Amy Donaldson, Sheryl Worsley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

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A long shot lead claiming Joyce Yost had died at the hands of a satanic coven took an unexpected turn when South Ogden police Sgt. Terry Carpenter confronted Doug Lovell's ex-wife in April of 1991. Rhonda Buttars came clean to Carpenter, breaking open his investigation more than five years after Joyce's disappearance. But Rhonda did more than just talk. She recorded Doug Lovell while wearing a wire.

Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Then, she vanished. Joyce has never been found. Now, investigative journalist Dave Cawley delves into the decades-old case to uncover the details of a murder-for-hire plot to silence Joyce. Cold reveals flaws in the system that left Joyce unprotected, examines pitfalls of the death penalty and asks if there’s such a thing as justice for Joyce Yost.

Survivors of rape, sexual abuse and sexual assault and their allies in the United States can connect with free resources at https://www.rainn.org/.

See photos, files and more for this episode: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2/ep-6-here-we-are-rhonda-buttars-confession/

Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2-transcript/here-we-are-full-transcript/

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Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Cold main score mixing: Dan Blanck
• KSL executive producers: Sheryl Worsley, Keira Farrimond
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

If you enjoy Cold, please try these other great shows from KSL Podcasts: The Letter, Ransom, Unsolved Histories

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Elizabeth Smart captured the attention of the nation when she was kidnapped at knife-point from her Salt Lake City home in June of 2002. She was 14 years old. Investigators found her nine months later and arrested her kidnappers, Brian David Mitchell and his wife Wanda Barzee. Mitchell repeatedly raped Elizabeth while she was captive. In the years since, Elizabeth has become an advocate for survivors and has established a foundation to help through education, prevention and recovery, elizabethsmartfoundation.org. Hosts Amy Donaldson and Sheryl Worsley ask Elizabeth about the hardest parts in her healing, her struggles with the justice system and her advice to other survivors.

 

Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Three ladies, Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley will talk about weighty issues like sexual assault, the death penalty and failures of the criminal justice system. The goal is more conversation and more understanding.

Listen to Cold on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/cold/ now.

Share your perspective. #JusticeForJoyceYost #TalkingCold Twitter Instagram Facebook

If you or someone close to you has experienced rape or any other form of sexual abuse, you can go to RAINN.org to connect with free resources anywhere in the United States.

Episode credits: 

• Hosts: Amy Donaldson, Sheryl Worsley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

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Doug Lovell's conviction for the rape of Joyce Yost carries a heavy penalty: 15 years-to-life in prison. With Doug safely in custody, South Ogden police turn their attention on his wife, Rhonda. The investigation stalls however, leaving the newly assigned lead detective Terry Carpenter chasing a strange lead involving a claim Joyce died at the hands of a satanic coven.

Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Then, she vanished. Joyce has never been found. Now, investigative journalist Dave Cawley delves into the decades-old case to uncover the details of a murder-for-hire plot to silence Joyce. Cold reveals flaws in the system that left Joyce unprotected, examines pitfalls of the death penalty and asks if there’s such a thing as justice for Joyce Yost.

Survivors of rape, sexual abuse and sexual assault and their allies in the United States can connect with free resources at https://www.rainn.org/.

See photos, files and more for this episode: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2/ep-5-garden-variety-rhonda-lovell/

Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-2-transcript/garden-variety-full-transcript/

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Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Nina Earnest
• Audio mixing: Trent Sell
• Additional voices: Saige Miller (as Rhonda Lovell), Ethan Millard (as Archie Smith), Alex Kirry (as Murray Miron)
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Cold main score mixing: Dan Blanck
• KSL executive producers: Sheryl Worsley, Keira Farrimond
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood
• Amazon Music team: Morgan Jones, Eliza Mills, Vanessa Rebbert, Shea Simpson

If you enjoy Cold, please try these other great shows from KSL Podcasts: The Letter, Ransom, Unsolved Histories

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.