In this World Autism Acceptance Week special, Cally talks to Sally Phillips about children, neurodiversity, special interests, football, bonobo apes, gender, advocacy, fame, resilience, freedom, Bridget Jones, Veep, fake weddings and vulnerability.

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Twitter: @sallyephillips

National Autistic Society

BBC documentary A World Without Down’s Syndrome

Jam & Jerusalem

Cally & Sally on The Museum of Curiosity

Bitch by Lucy Cooke

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Produced by Mike Hanson for Pod People Productions

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Music by Jake Yapp

Cover art by Jaijo

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