The Holy War is back! Lauren and Cleon discuss the latest news of Utah, Arizona, and Arizona State joining the Big-12, the collapse of the Pac-12, and who the Big-12 should look at from the ACC. Plus, OT Caleb Etienne joins the show and talks about the differences between BYU fall camp compared to Oklahoma State, what he enjoys about Provo, and how the offensive line is coming on. Also, CB Eddie Heckard joins the show and discusses his relationship with DC Jay Hill, the improvement of the defense throughout fall camp, and his improving golf game.