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🎯 Most AI agencies are broke for one reason: they picked a niche that can't pay them. 🎯

Luke Pierce has built 80+ AI systems with a near-100% adoption rate and he uses a 7-point scorecard to know which niches print $1M+ before he ever sends a single pitch.

In this episode, Luke Pierce (founder of Boom Automation) breaks down the exact framework he uses to score any industry and predict — before a single sales call — whether it'll make money or bleed you dry.

He's worked with everyone from small local businesses to mid-market investment firms, and he's learned the hard way that the niche you pick decides everything: your close rate, your deal size, your margins, and whether you're still in business in twelve months.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

→ The 7-point scoring system that separates $1M niches from time-wasters (and the ONE criterion that overrides the other six combined)

→ Why the most painful, "perfect-on-paper" niches are actually the trap that kills agencies

→ The 5 local business categories with a pain point AI absolutely crushes right now — and the exact automation each one will happily pay for

→ How to find any industry's #1 AI opportunity without ever working in it

→ Why specialists get chosen while generalists fight for scraps on price

If you run an AI agency — this is the playbook.

Guest: Luke Pierce, Founder of Boom Automations

YouTube: https://youtu.be/IXnSBkiq_5w

🌐 Connect with Luke Pierce:

Website: https://boomautomations.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/luke-pierce-boom-automations/

💬 Which niche are you going after? Drop it in the comments.

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ABOUT VENDASTA:

Vendasta is an AI-powered customer acquisition and engagement platform that helps businesses get more customers—and keep them. Our platform unifies fragmented tools across marketing, sales, and operations, and uses AI assistants plus proprietary SMB data to automate busywork, streamline workflows, and amplify the humans on your team.

We help digital agencies, franchisors, and MSPs scale profitably, deliver better outcomes for local businesses, and grow long-term revenue with less manual effort.

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🎯 The 5-Minute Response Window That's Killing Your Agency (And How to Win It Back)🎯

While you're manually checking LinkedIn on Wednesday, your competitors closed the deal on Monday. In this episode, Jeremy breaks down why prospecting in 2026 isn't a volume problem — it's a timing problem — and reveals the exact AI-powered system that's separating winning agencies from the ones bleeding out.

If you're still buying bigger lists and sending more cold emails hoping something sticks, this conversation will completely rewire how you think about lead generation.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

✅ The 5 AI employees every agency should be hiring TODAY (and which one to build first)

✅ Why the "send more messages" diagnosis is destroying your pipeline (and what actually works)

✅ The critical difference between a lead list and a buying signal — and why confusing them costs you deals every week

✅ The REAL buying signals local businesses send every day (hiring spikes, review velocity, job changes, website updates, social engagement, expansion announcements)

✅ How to build an operational ICP that filters in real-time — not a useless persona doc collecting dust in Google Drive

✅ The "waterfall filter" system that qualifies prospects for free before AI ever touches them

✅ The 4 components you need for a 5-minute response system that's structurally impossible to beat manually

Guest: Jeremy Grandillon, CEO & Co-founder TC9

YouTube: https://youtu.be/ZAOnAkpbGgo

💡 Who This Is For:

Agency owners selling to local businesses (home services, med spas, restaurants, plumbing, wellness), founders scaling B2B outreach, and anyone tired of spray-and-pray prospecting that stopped working five years ago.

🔗 Connect With Jérémy Grandillon

🌐 Website: https:https://tc9.ai

💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremygrandillon/

CONNECT WITH VENDASTA:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/vendasta/

X: https://x.com/vendasta

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vendasta/

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ABOUT VENDASTA:

Vendasta is an AI-powered customer acquisition and engagement platform that helps businesses get more customers—and keep them. Our platform unifies fragmented tools across marketing, sales, and operations, and uses AI assistants plus proprietary SMB data to automate busywork, streamline workflows, and amplify the humans on your team.

We help digital agencies, franchisors, and MSPs scale profitably, deliver better outcomes for local businesses, and grow long-term revenue with less manual effort.

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For 20 years, the SEO industry sold one promise: rank #1 on Google and the traffic will come.

Eli Schwartz is the man telling everyone that promise is dead.He's consulted for Tinder, WordPress, SurveyMonkey, and Mixpanel. He wrote the book on product-led SEO. And in this episode, he doesn't hold back on what AI has actually done to search and why most SEO agencies are about to get wiped out.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

→ Why ranking #1 on Google is now worthless (and the data proving it)

→ How one company lost 60% of their traffic but kept their revenue

→ Why the $5K/month blog post retainer is officially dead

→ The "search market fit" framework most startups completely miss

→ The brand signals AI is actually paying attention to (it's not what you think)

→ Why eBay lost the SEO war to Amazon — and what every business can learn from it

→ The $30,000/month link-building mistake Eli made early in his career

→ Why your SEO agency might be lying to you (and how to tell)

→ What agencies need to sell instead of rankings to survive 2026

If you're a founder, marketer, or agency owner who's watching AI Overviews eat your traffic — this is the episode that explains what's actually happening and what to do about it.Eli isn't sugarcoating it. Most agencies won't survive this shift. But the ones that adapt are about to win bigger than ever.⏱

Guest: Eli Schwartz, SEO consultant of Product-Led SEO

YouTube: https://youtu.be/8JdXW-qTzQg

👤 ABOUT ELI SCHWARTZ

Eli Schwartz is an SEO consultant and the author of Product-Led SEO. He has consulted for Tinder, WordPress, SurveyMonkey, Mixpanel, and dozens of high-growth companies. His upcoming book Customer Intelligence (Wiley) explores how businesses can actually understand their ideal customer.

📩 Follow Eli on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwartze/

📬 Subscribe to his newsletter: https://www.productledseo.com/🎙

CONNECT WITH VENDASTA:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/vendasta/

X: https://x.com/vendasta

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vendasta/

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ABOUT VENDASTA:

Vendasta is an AI-powered customer acquisition and engagement platform that helps businesses get more customers—and keep them. Our platform unifies fragmented tools across marketing, sales, and operations, and uses AI assistants plus proprietary SMB data to automate busywork, streamline workflows, and amplify the humans on your team.

We help digital agencies, franchisors, and MSPs scale profitably, deliver better outcomes for local businesses, and grow long-term revenue with less manual effort.

👉 Transform Your Agency with Vendasta – Book a Demo

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🎯 How Luke Pierce Closed 80+ AI Automation Deals With Local Businesses.🎯

Luke Pierce, founder of Boom Automations, has closed over 80 AI builds ranging from small projects to six figures and his #1 piece of advice to agency owners is to stop leading with AI entirely.

In this episode, Luke breaks down the exact framework he uses to identify ready buyers, run discovery calls that close 60%+ of qualified prospects, and turn operational chaos into six-figure deals with local businesses.

If you're an agency owner, automation builder, or consultant trying to sell into plumbers, clinics, contractors, or real estate teams — this is the playbook.

🔑 What you'll learn:

→ Why leading with "AI automation" kills your deals before they start

→ The 5 positioning pillars that separate $100K agencies from price-shoppers

→ 7 signals that reveal a local business is sitting on $100K+ in operational waste (before you ever talk to them)

→ The exact 30-minute discovery call structure that closes 60%+ of qualified prospects

→ The 9 workflow questions that uncover billable system components

→ How to do live ROI math with the prospect's own numbers

→ How to handle the 3 objections unique to local businesses without losing the deal

📌 Real client results discussed:

600+ manual invoices automated per month for a home services company

100% reduction in quoting process time

Lead intake systems that score, enrich, and route in under 2 minutes

Proposal generation triggered by a single form submission

Guest: Luke Pierce, founder of Boom Automations

YouTube: https://youtu.be/eIcYnfj0dgI

🌐 Connect with Luke Pierce:

Website: https://boomautomations.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/luke-pierce-boom-automations/

CONNECT WITH VENDASTA:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/vendasta/

X: https://x.com/vendasta

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vendasta/

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ABOUT VENDASTA:

Vendasta is an AI-powered customer acquisition and engagement platform that helps businesses get more customers—and keep them. Our platform unifies fragmented tools across marketing, sales, and operations, and uses AI assistants plus proprietary SMB data to automate busywork, streamline workflows, and amplify the humans on your team.

We help digital agencies, franchisors, and MSPs scale profitably, deliver better outcomes for local businesses, and grow long-term revenue with less manual effort.

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🎯 She built a $1.2M AI agency without a single sales call, zero paid ads, and no cold outreach. Here's the exact system she used. 🎯

Most agency owners are stuck doing 20 sales calls a week, chasing cold leads, and burning out, only to close maybe 5% of them.

Isabella Bedoya did the opposite.

No cold emails. No sales team. No paid ads.

Just a razor-sharp 4-step system that attracts high-ticket clients, warms them up automatically, and converts them — sometimes while she sleeps.

In this episode, Isabella breaks down exactly how she:

→ Sold $180K of AI agents in 6 weeks from LinkedIn alone

→ Replaced 200 exhausting sales calls with one system that made 3X more money

→ Charges $10K–$20K per AI agent — without ever hopping on a pitch call

And the most counterintuitive part?

The more she gave away for free, the more people paid her.

KEY CONCEPTS COVERED IN THIS VIDEO

✅ The 3 AI agents businesses are paying most for right now — and how to sell them fast

✅ The exact email sequence that converts cold leads into high-ticket buyers

✅ How to build a personal brand that makes Forbes, podcasts and clients come to YOU

✅ The upsell ladder that takes clients from $47 all the way to $20K/month

✅ How to use buyer enablement to sell $10K AI agents straight from a landing page

🏷️ WHO IS THIS FOR?

This episode is for you if you are:

An agency owner stuck trading time for money

Trying to sell AI agents but don't know how to package or price them

Tired of cold outreach and discovery calls that go nowhere

Ready to build a high-ticket offer that sells while you sleep

Wanting to productize your AI services and scale past $50K/month

Guest: Isabella Bedoya, Founder izzyOS

YouTube: https://youtu.be/xDXVozOg-Kk

🔗 CONNECT WITH Isabella Bedoya:

🌐 Website: https://izzygpt.com/

💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/izzword/

CONNECT WITH VENDASTA:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/vendasta/

X: https://x.com/vendasta

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vendasta/

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ABOUT VENDASTA:

Vendasta is an AI-powered customer acquisition and engagement platform that helps businesses get more customers—and keep them. Our platform unifies fragmented tools across marketing, sales, and operations, and uses AI assistants plus proprietary SMB data to automate busywork, streamline workflows, and amplify the humans on your team.

We help digital agencies, franchisors, and MSPs scale profitably, deliver better outcomes for local businesses, and grow long-term revenue with less manual effort.

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🎯 AI automation isn’t about doing everything faster. It’s about deciding what shouldn’t require a human at all. 🎯

In this episode, we sit down with Ashley, AI operator and founder of AI workforce Alliance, who cut her workweek from an unsustainable 80 hours to 25 hours, by systematizing the exact workflows that quietly drain most modern businesses.

It’s a real breakdown of the 5 workflows Ashley automated first, and the 11 AI-agent “workforce” she built next.

If your team is:

• Drowning in inbox + follow-ups

• Spending hours repurposing content

• Doing the same research before every call

• Losing deals after hours (and weekends)

• Struggling to define what “sales-ready” actually means

This episode will give you a clear playbook for what to automate first and what to protect as human-only work.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

• The 5 workflows Ashley automated.

• 11 agents that act as 80% of her operational muscle

• How to build a content engine that only costs $75

• How to automate your inbox without automating relationships

• How to build an after-hours AI agent that qualifies, enriches, and books meetings

• How to use an AI CFO persona to stress-test pitch, offer, and closing hook

• A simple 3-question filter for deciding what to automate first

• Why 2026 will be messy and how to build foundations before you build agents

KEY CONCEPTS COVERED IN THIS VIDEO

AI workflow automation

Content repurposing systems

Inbox triage + drafted responses

Lead qualification + CRM enrichment

After-hours AI agents (chat + voice)

SOPs, SLAs, and knowledge bases

Renewal prep + relationship intelligence

Client sentiment tracking (“happiness meter”)

AI CFO roleplay for sales enablement

The automation-to-agents autonomy spectrum

2026 readiness: foundations → automations → agents

Guest: Ashley Gross, CEO and Founder of AI Workforce Alliance

YouTube: https://youtu.be/6_XZjGUfI3s

CONNECT WITH ASHLEY GROSS:

💼 https://www.linkedin.com/in/theashleygross/

🌐 aiworkforcealliance.com/

CONNECT WITH VENDASTA:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/vendasta/

X: https://x.com/vendasta

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vendasta/

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ABOUT VENDASTA:

Vendasta is an AI-powered customer acquisition and engagement platform that helps businesses get more customers—and keep them. Our platform unifies fragmented tools across marketing, sales, and operations, and uses AI assistants plus proprietary SMB data to automate busywork, streamline workflows, and amplify the humans on your team.

We help digital agencies, franchisors, and MSPs scale profitably, deliver better outcomes for local businesses, and grow long-term revenue with less manual effort.

👉 Transform Your Agency with Vendasta – Book a Demo

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🎯 AI search isn’t broken. It just doesn’t work the way most people think it does. 🎯

In this episode, we sit down with Chris Long — AI search researcher, co-founder of Nectiv, and one of the leading analysts studying how LLMs actually read, search, and cite the web — to unpack why traditional SEO playbooks are quietly failing in the age of AI.

This isn’t about better keywords. It’s not about ranking higher. And it’s definitely not about writing longer content.

If your team is:

• Ranking well in Google but not getting mentioned by AI

• Watching traffic decline while visibility feels unpredictable

• Confused by contradictory SEO advice around AI search

• Still treating AI like “Google with a chatbot interface”

This conversation will finally make AI search make sense.

In this episode, you'll learn:

• Why AI engines don’t read pages top-to-bottom like Google

• How AI uses context windows and “chunking” to extract answers

• Why most of your web page may be invisible to AI

• How one search can fan out into dozens of unseen queries

• Why keyword lists collapse in AI-driven search

• What AI engines actually look for when choosing sources

• Why tables, bullets, and structure outperform “great writing”

• How citations influence ChatGPT and AI Overviews

• Why traffic is becoming a vanity metric in a zero-click world

• What KPIs actually matter as we move toward 2026

• How to rethink SEO strategy for a world where AI is the reader

Key concepts in this episode:

AI search Behavior

Context windows and content chunking

Fan-out queries and query expansion

AI vs Google search mechanics

Zero-click search and declining CTR

Brand mentions vs traffic

AI citations and third-party influence

Content structure for LLMs

Search visibility in 2026

The future of SEO and GEO

Guest: Chris Long, Co-founder at Nectiv

YouTube: https://youtu.be/pJB4LMcsTFE

CONNECT WITH CHRIS LONG

💼 https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-long-marketing/

🌐 https://nectivdigital.com/

CONNECT WITH VENDASTA:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/vendasta/

X: https://x.com/vendasta

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vendasta/

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ABOUT VENDASTA

Vendasta is an AI-powered customer acquisition and engagement platform that helps businesses get more customers—and keep them. Our platform unifies fragmented tools across marketing, sales, and operations, and uses AI assistants plus proprietary SMB data to automate busywork, streamline workflows, and amplify the humans on your team.

We help digital agencies, franchisors, and MSPs scale profitably, deliver better outcomes for local businesses, and grow long-term revenue with less manual effort.

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🎯 Most agencies have a client alignment and retention problem 🎯

In this episode, we sit down with Robert Patin — agency advisor and growth strategist who’s helped firms scale by 800%+ — to unpack where real agency growth actually comes from (and why chasing new logos is usually the slowest, riskiest path).

Robert has helped agencies fire up to $2M worth of misaligned clients, not because they weren’t big enough, but because they were quietly killing profitability, morale, and momentum.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode

• The early warning signs that a client is misaligned

• Why clients who nickel-and-dime upfront are the most expensive later

• How to calculate effective bill rate per client (and why it’s eye-opening)

• Why your lowest-paying clients often drain the most energy

• How one agency discovered they were losing $4 per hour on a “top” client

• When firing a client is the most profitable decision you can make

• How to set and communicate boundaries without damaging relationships

• Why retention — not acquisition — drives 70%+ of agency growth

• How a 5% increase in retention can unlock massive revenue upside

• The simple framework for quarterly business reviews that surface expansion

• How to turn one-off projects into 3–4 year retainers

• Why agencies already have the clients they need to hit their next revenue milestone

• How a single outreach email uncovered $1–2M in revenue in 90 days

• Why value articulation — not more work — keeps clients longer

If you’re an agency owner, founder, or operator who feels stuck on the growth treadmill — selling more just to stand still — this episode shows you how to stabilize revenue, increase profitability, and grow without burning out.

👉 Hit play to learn how the fastest way to grow your agency might be doing less — with the right clients.

Guest: Robert Patin, Managing Partner at Creative Agency Success

YouTube: https://youtu.be/6zB0AvrcCMU

CONNECT WITH ROBERT PATIN

💼 LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/creative-agency-success/

CONNECT WITH US

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X: https://x.com/vendasta

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About Vendasta

Vendasta is an AI-powered customer acquisition and engagement platform that helps businesses get more customers—and keep them. Our platform unifies fragmented tools across marketing, sales, and operations, and uses AI assistants plus proprietary SMB data to automate busywork, streamline workflows, and amplify the humans on your team.

We help digital agencies, franchisors, and MSPs scale profitably, deliver better outcomes for local businesses, and grow long-term revenue with less manual effort.

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🎯Your AI rollout didn’t fail because of the tools. It failed because no one wanted to use them.🎯

In this episode, we sit down with Dajana Achelpohl — former Google and PayPal leader, founder of AI Changemaker, and one of the most trusted voices in human-first AI adoption — to unpack the real reasons AI initiatives stall inside organizations.

If your company has:

• Rolled out AI tools that barely get touched

• A small group of power users and a large group of skeptics

• Teams quietly using their own AI tools behind the scenes

• Leaders saying “we need to do AI” without a clear outcome

This conversation will fundamentally change how you think about AI adoption.

In this episode, you'll learn:

• Why most AI rollouts fail after launch — not before

• The hidden danger of “silent non-use” and fake adoption metrics

• Why fear of job loss leads teams to actively sabotage AI

• What “Shadow AI” is — and why it’s already inside your organization

• How to align non-technical teams around AI without overwhelming them

• Dajana’s AI Building Blocks Framework for practical adoption

• Why small, boring wins beat ambitious AI moonshots

• How to create guardrails that enable innovation instead of blocking it

• What an AI Team Charter is — and why it works better than policy docs

• Why AI adoption only succeeds when teams co-create the rules

• How agencies and service-based businesses are uniquely positioned to win with AI

Key concepts in this episode:

AI adoption barriers

Silent non-use of AI tools

Shadow AI risks

Human-first AI strategy

AI change management

AI literacy for non-technical teams

AI guardrails and governance

AI ethics and data security

AI team charters

Bottom-up vs top-down AI adoption

AI in agencies and service businesses

Agentic AI and workflows

AI implementation frameworks

Practical AI use cases

AI culture and trust

From AI hype to real value

If you’re a CMO, agency leader, founder, or operator who’s frustrated by low AI adoption, unclear strategy, or teams that feel anxious instead of empowered — this episode gives you a practical, human-centered path forward.

👉 Hit play to learn how to turn AI from a mandate into momentum.

Guest: Dajana Achelpohl, Founder of AI Change Maker

YouTube: https://youtu.be/6pNvjtdIAuI

CONNECT WITH DAJANA ACHELPOHL

💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dajana-achelpohl/

🌐 https://www.aichangemaker.com/

CONNECT WITH VENDASTA:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/vendasta/

X: https://x.com/vendasta

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ABOUT VENDASTA

Vendasta is an AI-powered customer acquisition and engagement platform that helps businesses get more customers—and keep them. Our platform unifies fragmented tools across marketing, sales, and operations, and uses AI assistants plus proprietary SMB data to automate busywork, streamline workflows, and amplify the humans on your team.

We help digital agencies, franchisors, and MSPs scale profitably, deliver better outcomes for local businesses, and grow long-term revenue with less manual effort.

👉 Transform Your Agency with Vendasta – Book a Demo

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🎯Your Martech stack isn’t broken — your mental model is.🎯

Your Martech stack isn’t broken — your mental model is.

In this episode, we sit down with Scott Brinker, Godfather of Martech, editor of Chief Marketing Technologist and VP of Platform Ecosystem at HubSpot, to unpack a reality most marketers miss:

The Martech explosion isn’t chaos — it’s the early stage of an AI-orchestrated system that’s about to collapse thousands of tools into workflows.

If you’re feeling crushed by:

An exploding Martech landscape, AI tools launching daily, integration hell, unused software, and pressure to “simplify”… this episode flips the narrative and shows why the winners won’t have fewer tools, they’ll have better orchestration.

In this episode, you'll learn:

Why the Martech Landscape Keeps Growing (and Why That’s Not the Real Problem)

The Shift From Tool Accumulation to Stack Orchestration

How AI Is Changing the Role of Marketers — Not Replacing Them

Why Integration Matters More Than Ever in an AI-Driven World

The Hidden Cost of Unused Software and Fragmented Data

How Smart Teams Are Simplifying Without Losing Capability

Where Agencies Can Create Massive Value as AI Integrators

What “Composable Martech” Really Means (Without the Buzzwords)

Key concepts in this episode:

Martech landscape explained

AI in marketing operations

Marketing automation vs. orchestration

Composable Martech stacks

Platform ecosystems and integrations

AI agents and copilots in marketing

Tool sprawl and software waste

Operational efficiency in marketing teams

Future of Martech and AI

Marketing technology strategy for agencies

Data fragmentation and system silos

Human-in-the-loop AI workflows

How agencies can monetize AI implementation

The evolving role of the CMO

From execution to orchestration in marketing

If you’re a CMO, agency leader, or marketing operator struggling with an overcomplicated stack, unclear AI strategy, and tools that promise everything but deliver little — this episode will help you rethink Martech as a system, not a shopping list.

👉 Hit play to learn how to simplify your stack, use AI intelligently, and turn Martech complexity into a competitive advantage.

Guest: Scott Brinker, Analyst & Advisor at chiefmartec

YouTube: https://youtu.be/c3mERM9x9_8

CONNECT WITH SCOTT BRINKER

💼 https://www.linkedin.com/in/sjbrinker/

🌐 https://chiefmartec.com/

CONNECT WITH VENDASTA:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/vendasta/

X: https://x.com/vendasta

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ABOUT VENDASTA

Vendasta is an AI-powered customer acquisition and engagement platform that helps businesses get more customers—and keep them. Our platform unifies fragmented tools across marketing, sales, and operations, and uses AI assistants plus proprietary SMB data to automate busywork, streamline workflows, and amplify the humans on your team.

We help digital agencies, franchisors, and MSPs scale profitably, deliver better outcomes for local businesses, and grow long-term revenue with less manual effort.

👉 Transform Your Agency with Vendasta – Book a Demo

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