This conversation with Jonathan proves to be a "wild one" in the sense that Jonathan Wilson Hartgrove leads us into the wilderness of race politics in America. Josh offers a hearty introduction to this conversation encouraging you to enter into this wilderness desert for the sake of loving God with your strength for the sake of righteousness, which is justice." This episode is a challenging invitation for you to bring your politics under the Lordship of Jesus no matter your political leanings and affiliations. Can we trust the Spirit to lead us into the wilderness, to brave this political storm growing our faith to believe yes, everything is going to be alright?