Jamie loves bikes but stays off-road because, when tired, he says he's not safe. Producer Emma is a bit shocked at how many times he's been hit by a car.

As always, they both also have sound advice for coping as the lockdown eases.

Since recording this episode, a new series of this podcast has been commissioned. You've told us we're particularly helpful at the moment so we don't want to keep you waiting too long. Episode 1 will arrive on your feed by the end of summer.

Produced by Emma Tracey

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