We discuss with Datuk Seri Dr Dzulkefly Ahmad, the Head of the Covid 19 Taskforce for Selangor, and former Health Minister on how far we are from flattening the curve, why some areas are hot spots, why hospitals need to raise their own funds, and is a MCO 3.0 necessary. We also ask if he sees himself as having Prime Minister material, and his political future and that of Pakatan Harapan.

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