There are things that happen in our parks and forests that cannot be explained.  Tara and Nancy discuss some of those happenings with some surprises along the way.  Listen here for the audio version, but if you would like to see the video version for the full effect and surprises, subscribe and watch it on patreon.com/crimeoffthegrid.  You'll want to join the Trail Crew tier.

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A woman goes hiking on a beautiful trail alone.  An alert from her watch led to finding her alive.

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Park Rangers responded to a report of possible child abuse/neglect in the campground the day after attending training about child abuse.  The suspects fled the park, but because rangers pursued the case, the suspects were found off the grid in AZ, and the children were rescued from a house of horrors.

To read the graphic details yourself, check out these links:
https://www.12news.com/article/news/crime/i-thought-i-was-gonna-die-arizona-couple-accused-of-brutally-abusing-2-adopted-children/75-253feee1-d62a-4d2c-8024-a5271a56306c

https://www.abc15.com/news/crime/surprise-pd-couple-arrested-for-child-abuse-accused-of-zip-tying-adopted-kids-and-withholding-food

RESOURCES for reporting child abuse/neglect in addition to local law enforcement: 
https://www.dhs.gov/fusion-center-locations-and-contact-information
Childhelp National Child Abuse Hotline at 1-800-422-4453 (1-800-4-A-CHILD).
https://www.missingkids.org/home


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What do Golden Gate NRA, Point Reyes National Seashore, Castle Rocks State Park, and Mount Tamalpais State Park have in common besides rugged cliffs, picturesque mountains, magical forests, and wild coastlines?  Answer: A sadistic serial killer who preys on victims hiking in the wilds.  Also, park signs that read "DO NOT HIKE ALONE."

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Sources:
https://allthatsinteresting.com/david-carpenter https://www.aetv.com/real-crime/david-carpenter-serial-killer-trailside-killer-california#:~:text=Carpenter%20had%20a%20lengthy%20rap,made%20their%20arrest%20soon%20thereafter

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Carpenter#Homicides
https://www.strangeoutdoors.com/true-crime-in-the-outdoors/david-carpenter#google_vignette=



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Join the conversation with Melissa Skeet, aka Skeet Fighter.  Melissa is an Indigenous Woman who is roller skating across the US on The Great Skate Tour raising awareness for the Missing and Murdered Indigenous Persons crisis.


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IG: @skeet_fighterFacebook: Skeet FighterTiktok: @skeet_fighterYoutube: @SkeetFighterGofundme: https://gofund.me/81eb0580Ohkomi Forensics: https://www.ohkomiforensics.com/donateLearn more about MMIP
https://www.nativehope.org/missing-and-murdered-indigenous-women-mmiw
https://www.acf.hhs.gov/ana/priorities/missing-and-murdered-indigenous-people

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Ever heard of 2 degrees from Kevin Bacon?  Nancy and Tara are now 3 degrees from a serial killer. They ran into a woman while hiking who told them about her cousin who was a serial killer's first victim in a national forest (which made her 2 degrees from the killer).

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Sources:
https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2009/07/trucker_who_went_on_killing_sp.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fautenberry

https://murderpedia.org/male.F/f1/fautenberry.htm

https://robinbarefield76.medium.com/serial-killer-john-fautenberry-4f8ee009ed09

https://crimecapsule.com/which-state-has-produced-the-most-serial-killers/#:~:text=Alaska,occurring%20between%201980%20and%201990.




 

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At the river's edge along the Gallatin, a murder is brought to justice for the killing of a 15 year old girl after years of hiding in plain site.

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Sources:
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https://montanafreepress.org/2024/08/08/gallatin-county-sheriff-says-28-year-old-cold-case-solved/

https://www.ypradio.org/regional-news/2024-08-08/dna-testing-solves-belgrade-teen-murder-case-28-years-later

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/danielle-houchins-cold-case-killer-suicide-b2593949.html



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A hippie turned religious fundamentalist moves his family of 15 children to Alaska and creates what he calls "Hillbilly Heaven."  He picks a fight with the National Park Service and all of his abuses on his family get exposed.

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https://www.adn.com/projects/article/hale-clan-details-abuse-hand-their-father-papa-pilgrim/2013/07/12/https://trustees.org/hale-lawsuit-finally-comes-end/https://www.outsideonline.com/adventure-travel/destinations/north-america/papa-pilgrims-progress-dark-tale-alaskan-frontiersman/https://www.wbur.org/npr/195193595/a-dark-family-secret-hidden-for-years-in-alaskas-wildernesshttps://www.ktoo.org/2022/03/07/out-of-the-wilderness-chronicles-papa-pilgrims-abuse-his-daughters-escape-and-her-journey-to-forgiveness/
https://blog.dianehenders.com/2016/03/09/whats-your-hippie-name/

RESOURCES:
https://www.childhelphotline.org/
https://hotline.rainn.org/online
https://www.nctsn.org/resources/caring-kids-what-parents-need-know-about-sexual-abuse
Childhelp National Child Abuse Hotline: 1-800-4-A-CHILD (1-800-422-4453)

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A horrific crime against a child is committed in the middle of the country.  The case went cold for months until the suspect described as "Charlie Manson on steroids" decides to go to Glacier National Park. (Apologies, there is a bit of an audio issue that couldn't be repaired.  But it's a great story!)

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Check out:
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https://www.nationalchildrensalliance.org/media-room/national-statistics-on-child-abuse/

Sources:
https://law.justia.com/cases/illinois/supreme-court/1992/70126-7.html
https://www.themidwestcrimefiles.com/post/murder-in-kell-the-amy-schulz-story
First hand account from Ranger Eric Morey

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When Park Rangers investigate possible illegal campers, they come upon the unthinkable.

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