This week, Naomi covers another notorious murder from the 80’s that inspired a made for tv movie: the murder of a beloved daughter whose death shook an entire community.

Then Amber covers the making of the 1981 movie, Roar which was one of Hollywood's most dangerous and chaotic projects. 

For this episode, Amber was drinking Bebame Red from El Dorando County CA

Naomi's Sources:

https://murderpedia.org/female.P/p/protti-bernadette.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kirsten_Costas

https://moviedelic.com/bernadette-protti/

Amber's Sources:

Roar – The Most Dangerous Movie Ever Made

https://www.stage32.com/blog/surviving-roar-the-most-dangerous-film-ever-made-620

The Bloody-Crazy (And Bloody & Crazy) Story Of Roar

Fifty Shades of Grrrrrr: The insane story of 'Roar'

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This week, Amber covers the attempted murder of Ashley Freeman and Michael Grinnan. Ashley and Michael were college sweethearts and out for a night drive, when things went horribly wrong. 

Then, Naomi covers a mass killing in Melbourne, Australia that shocked the whole nation.

For this episode, Amber was drinking Ben Ami, a red blend from California.

Amber's Sources:

Massillon murder suspect has decades-long criminal history

Massillon man admits to killing two women, gets life term

Ashley Freeman and Michael Grinnan Attempted Murder: Is Leeroy W. Rogers Sr. Dead or Alive?

Ashley Freeman: Where is the Survivor Now?

Naomi's Sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoddle_Street_massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Knight_(murderer)#cite_note-vsc-1989-2

https://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/vic/VicRp/1989/62.html

https://murderpedia.org/male.K/k/knight-julian.htm

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This week, Naomi covers one of the most infamous murder trials in modern history, one of the first to be televised in real time.

Then, Amber tells the story of a newly divorced dad, on his first vacation without his family, and a sight seeing excursion gone horribly wrong.

Amber was drinking Sleight of Hand Cellars, a Columbia Valley Red.

Naomi's sources:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pamela-smart-accepts-responsibility-husbands-murder-first-time

https://www.governor.nh.gov/governor-ayotte-pardon-request-pamela-smart

https://abcnews.go.com/pamela-smart-teen-lover-murdered-husband-decades-ago

https://www.wmur.com/article/pamela-smart-case-timeline/61075409

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/12/us/pamela-smart-case-timeline

https://www.psychologytoday.com/pamela-smart-cheerleader-celebrity-monster

https://murderpedia.org/female.S/s/smart-pamela.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamela_Smart

https://allthatsinteresting.com/greggory-smart

Amber's sources:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stranded-hiker-survives-lava-field/

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna8683168

https://www.myplainview.com/news/article/Man-survives-five-days-in-lava-field-8675070.php

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Amber and Naomi are taking a much needed and unprecedented hiatus. Don't worry! We'll be back in no time! In the meantime, here's another old favorite of ours, Episode 146, originally published on July 30th, 2023.

This week, Naomi covers the tragic murder that led to the Nikki Kuhnhausen Act, removing the “gay & trans panic defense” in Washington State as justification for murder.

Then Amber covers The Harvey's Resort Hotel bombing. In August of 1980, what appeared to be a delivery from IBM  was dropped off at Harvey's Hotel Resort. The package was actually 1,000 pounds of dynamite.

This week, Amber was drinking F. Stephen Miller – Pinot Noir from Santa Barbara

Naomi pulled her sources from:
https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/nikki-kuhnhausen-murder-case/19/

https://ovc.ojp.gov/sites/g/files/xyckuh226/files/pubs/forge/sexual_numbers.html

https://www.lgbtmap.org/

https://www.the-sun.com/arrest-of-nikki-kuhnhausen-killer/

https://justice4nikki.com/

How I Caught My Killer – S1Ep1 - Hulu

Amber pulled her sources from:

Stuff You Should Know Podcast – 11/1/2022

https://www.fbi.gov/video-repository/newss-harveys-casino-bomb/view

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey%27s_Resort_Hotel_bombing

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Amber and Naomi are taking a much needed and unprecedented hiatus. Don't worry! We'll be back in no time! In the meantime, enjoy another peek behind the paywall with Bonus Episode 19, originally published on Patreon September 2024.

In this episode, Amber covers the murder of Mark Schwebes. In 1996, beloved Riverdale High School band teacher, Mark Schwebes was gunned down on his front porch.

 
Then, Naomi recalls the events of the week in 1999 that the World Trade Organization held their summit in Seattle, WA and were met with opposition from an array of activists.

Amber's Sources:
The 1990’s The Deadliest Decade S1 E4 Lords of Chaos

Lords of Chaos (criminal group) - Wikipedia

'Someone has to die tonight'

Naomi's Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Seattle_WTO_protests#

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Action_Network

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Exchange

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Organization_Ministerial_Conference_of_1999

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Organization#Criticism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival_Against_Capital

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_bloc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFL-CIO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFL-CIO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Msk0PbhwcuA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovDNI3K5R7s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999

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Amber and Naomi are taking a much needed and unprecedented hiatus. Don't worry! We'll be back in no time! In the meantime, enjoy an old favorite or ours, Episode 118, originally published on January 15th, 2023.

This week, Naomi takes us back to the home of the Aggies when Texas A&M had a knife-wielding serial raper on campus, and the story of how he was finally brought to justice.

Then Amber covers the story of an online cult that ended in murder.

This week, both gals were drinking water.

Naomi pulled her sources from:

Unsolved Mysteries - Season 9, Ep 6

unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com

tampabay.com

chron.com/news

Amber pulled her sources from:

https://allthatsinteresting.com/sherry-shriner

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/06/11/alien-reptile-murder-cult-barbara-rogers-sherry-shriner/

https://www.thewrap.com/vice-devil-you-know-sherry-shriner-alien-reptile-cultist-season-2-video/

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Amber and Naomi are taking a much needed and unprecedented hiatus. Don't worry! We'll be back in no time! In the meantime, enjoy a peek behind the paywall with Bonus Episode 3, originally published on Patreon May 2023.

On this bonus episode, Amber tells the story of the brutal murder of young mother, Nikki Whitehead.

Then, Naomi covers the strange story of the death of Carla Jean Shaffer on the beautiful Orcas Island, off the coast of Washington State, where many local residents believe a dangerous cult played a part in Carla’s demise.

Amber was drinking Casa Santos Lima, a red blend from Portugal.

Amber pulled her sources from:
Podcast – Women in Crime “The Murder of Nikki Whitehead” 11/15/2021 S2E62

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Nikki_Whitehead

https://www.the-sun.com/news/6143376/nikki-whitehead-murder-twin-daughters-killed-mom-nbc-dateline/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2537278/Identical-twin-girl-20-gets-30-years-murdering-mother-twin-sister-20-face-life-sentence.html

Naomi pulled her sources from:
https://www.gurumag.com

https://www.gurumag.com/medical-examiner-stunned

https://www.islandssounder.com/obituaries/carla-jean-shaffer/

https://kumbayaconfessional.libsyn.com/a-murder-mystery-dilemma

https://sanjuanislander.com

https://medium.com/@paullarosa

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This week, Naomi covers a case from 1989 that the press dubbed “The Fatal Attraction Murder”.

Then, Amber takes us on a ride along with the P.I. moms who were looking for an interesting job that would work with their busy lives and got way more than they bargained for.

Amber was drinking water...again....it happens.

Naomi's sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolyn_Warmus

https://murderpedia.org/female.W/w/warmus-carolyn.htm

https://allthatsinteresting.com/carolyn-warmus

https://wegotthiscovered.com/were-dna-results-in-carolyn-warmus-ever-revealed

https://www.al.com/dna-testing-carolyn-warmus-1989-murder-approved

Amber's sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Butler_(private_investigator)

Trainwreck: PI Moms

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/p-i-moms-trainwreck-inside-story-1236317315/

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This week, Amber covers the murder of Molly Watson, gunned down just days before her wedding.

Then, Naomi covers the life and death of a woman who built an empire, and many say a cult, preaching that God’s will is thinness.

Amber was drinking water....we recorded at noon.

Amber's sources:

The Shadows of Death - S3 E2 “A Double Life”

Bride murdered 2 days before wedding reveals groom's secret double life - ABC News

Bride-to-Be Was 2 Days from Disney-Themed Wedding — Then She Was Shot, Exposing Groom's Secret Life

'20/20': Ex-wife found out husband James Addie had secret life when he was arrested for fiancee's murder - ABC7 Los Angeles

Naomi's sources:

The Way Down: God, Greed, and the Cult of Gwen Shamblin - Max

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwen_Shamblin_Lara

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_v._Smith

https://www.christianpost.com/gwen-shamblin-laras-son-says-mothers-church-a-cult

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This week, Naomi covers what some believe to be the most extreme and shocking case of Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy ever recorded.

Then Amber takes us on an adventure in the skies with a man who made his childhood dream come true in a most unorthodox way.

This episode, Amber was drinking Kirkland Signature Rose Prosecco.

Naomi's sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marybeth_Tinning

https://murderpedia.org/female.T/t/tinning-marybeth.htm

Amber's sources:

Wikipedia — “Lawnchair Larry flight” / “Larry Walters.” Wikipedia

National Air and Space Museum (Smithsonian) — object entry: Chair, Lawn, Larry Walters. National Air and Space Museum

Smithsonian / Air & Space Magazine — “How the Balloon-Borne ‘Flying Lawn Chair’ Got Into the Smithsonian.” Smithsonian Magazine

Los Angeles Times — obituary and reporting on Larry Walters’ death (1993). Los Angeles Times

The New Yorker — “The Man in the Flying Lawn Chair” (1998 profile). The New Yorker

Wired — “July 2, 1982: Up, Up and Away With 42 Balloons.” WIRED

AOPA / Plane & Pilot — aviation analysis and legacy pieces. AOPAPlane & Pilot

Guinness World Records — retrospective coverage of the ascent. Guinness World Records

YouTube archival interviews and Letterman appearances with Larry Walters. YouTube

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