After a whirlwind week of post-Jackie Warner interview fame, I escape into the shade of a WeHo park with one of my best friends and Fire Island housemate, Carey O'Donnell (SUP podcast), to regroup. In the shadow of SUR and the ghost of Sky Sport & Spa, we unpack Workout Season 2, Episode 2 while getting distracted by jacked strangers on the jungle gym. Topics include:

• Post-Bravo fame burnout
• The shifting sands of gay status symbols
• West Hollywood vs Fire Island energy
• And a deeply personal revelation involving Carey’s high school swim team

Let’s just say... this episode has a lot of heart—and eye candy