Jen Lilley did not audition for the role of Gloria Stewart in Jimmy. She did not even know the film was being made. She was in a two-year season of pruning so severe she describes going from a full tree to dry wood, and she was in her prayer closet asking God what was happening when a producer called her co-host Billy Hallowell asking if he knew any actresses who felt fancy but were also completely a real mom. Billy gave them Jen's name. She got on a Zoom with director Aaron Burns, told him she had been farming and building woodland trails for her kids between calls, and he said you are so Gloria.

Prophecy, pruning, and the prayer closet that changed everything: Jen shares what it looked like to hear God say you are about to be kicked out of the nest and you have forgotten how to fly, to watch everything in her career get cut back in the same season, and to finally feel like she was reaching the other shore two years later, just as the Jimmy phone call came. She also talks about Wake Up Your Campus, her 501(c)(3) initiative bringing a 30-day devotional challenge to college students for free, why she gives away Starbucks gift cards to get Gen Z to engage with Scripture and keeps weeping reading their takeaways, and what she believes is coming when this generation finds Jesus and gets loud about it on the internet.

Highlights

• How a call from Billy Hallowell about a producer named Angela Sullivan led to a role Jen never auditioned for
• The word she heard in her prayer closet two years before: you are about to be kicked out of the nest and you have forgotten how to fly
• Three separate prophetic words from strangers that all pointed to the same season of free-falling and survival
• Why she believes God cannot move without being invited and why prayer is the system He chose to partner with humanity
• Wake Up Your Campus, a free 30-day devotional challenge for college students with weekly Starbucks giveaways to drive engagement
• The college student who engaged with the devotional 90 times and the girl who decided to forgive her mom because of a one-sentence takeaway
• Why she compares Gen Z to the hippies and believes a Jesus People-style revival is coming, but this time with the internet
• Call to Foster, her co-authored starter guide for anyone curious about foster parenting or supporting foster families

Resources / Links / CTA

• 🌐 Jen Lilley website: https://jenlilley.com
• 📱 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jen_lille
• 🎬 Jimmy: in theaters November 6
• 🌐 Wake Up Your Campus
• 📖 Book: Wake Up Your Faith
• 📖 Book: Call to Foster by Jen Lilley and Dr. John DeGarmo
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Michael W. Smith was just planning to show up on the red carpet to support his son Tyler, who scored Daniel in the Fiery Furnace. Then he heard the music coming from upstairs in his studio — an epic battle scene — and ran up the stairs to find out what it was. That was eight months ago. He is now executive producer of the film.

Standing firm, the Forrest Frank phenomenon, and a move of God spreading from college campuses to arenas around the world: Michael shares why he believes the story of Daniel is exactly what this generation needs right now, young people who will look at the pressure to conform and say we will not bend the knee. He also opens up about attending a Forrest Frank concert and being stunned watching six to fourteen year olds sing every word to every song in a packed arena, why he believes Frank has the right heart and the right team around him, and why a friend's reminder that God does not share His glory with anyone brought him to his knees with conviction. He saw the Jesus Movement in the seventies. He believes something like it is happening again.

Highlights

• How hearing Tyler Smith's epic battle scene score from upstairs in the studio convinced Michael W. Smith to become executive producer
• Why he believes the story of Daniel carrying a message of not bending the knee is exactly what Gen Z needs right now
• What it was like to attend a Forrest Frank concert and watch six to fourteen year olds sing every word to every song
• Why he believes Frank has his heart and team dialed in and what he worries about when success comes too fast
• The statement that lit up social media, that God does not share His glory with anyone, and why it convicted him
• Why he is seeing revival not just on American college campuses but in Europe and around the world
• What it means to him as someone who helped shape Christian music to see a new generation filling arenas for Jesus
• How the Daniel film connects to the revival he is witnessing and why he thinks young people will walk out ready to stand

Resources / Links / CTA

• 🌐 Michael W. Smith website: https://michaelwsmith.com
• 📱 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mwsmithofficial
• 🎬 Daniel in the Fiery Furnace
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Bob Beltz was part of a small Wilberforce fan club long before anyone made a movie about him. As associate producer of Amazing Grace, he helped bring to the screen the story of William Wilberforce — the British parliamentarian who put a bill on the floor of Parliament every single year from 1787, watched it fail every single year, nearly had a nervous breakdown at the 10-year mark, and finally saw it pass in 1807. Three days after Parliament abolished slavery in 1833, Wilberforce died. The film is now celebrating its 20th anniversary and is back on Angel and all major platforms.

Persistence, purpose, and the faith that drove a man to start over 90 ministries and make doing good fashionable: Bob shares what drew him to Wilberforce's story, why Christ was at the center of everything Wilberforce did even when the film does not fully show the depth of his devotional life, and what the 1797 defeat — when his opponents bought opera tickets for every pro-vote in Parliament — teaches about perseverance in a culture that expects instant results. He also talks about his decades of work keeping the Narnia films faithful to C.S. Lewis, why they had the rights to all seven books but could only make three films, and why he is nervous about what Netflix might do with the series now.

Highlights

• Why Wilberforce was part of a small fan club before the film and how little most people knew about him
• How he came back to faith through reading the C.S. Lewis equivalent of his day while on vacation with a mathematics professor
• Why both William Pitt and John Newton told him he did not have to choose between politics and faith
• The 1797 defeat when his opponents bought opera tickets for every pro-vote in Parliament and what it did to him
• Why Wilberforce died three days after Parliament finally abolished slavery in 1833
• How the British slave trade was abolished a year before America's, and how slavery itself was abolished 30 years before the U.S.
• The cast of Amazing Grace — none of whom were famous when they were cast — and why the film looks like it was made yesterday
• Bob's role in keeping the Narnia films faithful to C.S. Lewis and why he is nervous about the Netflix version

Resources / Links / CTA

• 🎬 Amazing Grace
• 📖 Book: Real Christianity by Bob Beltz
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Nazareth grew up in Kuwait as a Coptic Christian, moved to America with dreams of becoming rich and famous, and was on track to get there. NBC had a sitcom in development for him. His manager told him he was going to be the biggest star in the country. Then he went to church with a friend, walked forward, gave his life to Christ, and called his manager Monday morning to quit. After 250 F-words from his manager, he was released — and never signed with one again.

God created humor, clean comedy is having its moment, and the only ticket price is showing up: Nazareth shares how he went from comedy clubs to prisons to stadiums to free community events where anyone who cannot afford a ticket simply picks one up, no questions asked. He has seen hundreds of thousands of people respond to the gospel at the end of his shows, and he believes the reason clean comedy is surging right now is simple, social media is so dark and filthy that being clean is the only way to actually stand out. He also talks about why laughter opens hearts that sermons sometimes cannot, and why two friends fighting cancer told him they were going to drag themselves to his show just to forget about their illness for two hours.

Highlights

• Growing up in Kuwait as a Coptic Christian, coming to America to study in Toledo, and building a comedy career before knowing Christ
• Calling his manager Monday morning after getting saved and quitting the career he had spent years building
• Why God created humor and the body was designed to heal through laughter, but only when you are laughing at something consistent with your values
• How doing comedy in prisons helped him develop material strong enough to work anywhere — because inmates on death row do not have to laugh
• Why clean comedy is surging right now and why being clean has become the countercultural choice in a filthy media landscape
• The Laughter for All model — free events where anyone who cannot afford a ticket gets one, first come first served, no VIP section
• The woman who called worried she would sit in the back because she got a free ticket, and what Nazareth told her
• Two hours of clean comedy, three headliners, and ten minutes of gospel at the end — that is the whole show

Resources / Links / CTA

• 🌐 Nazareth website: https://www.nazarethusa.com
• 🌐 Laughter for All: https://www.laughterforall.org
• 📱 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/comediannazareth
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Natalie Layne grew up with worship leader parents, was playing keys in church by age 12, and gave her life to Jesus at 13. She never had the dramatic testimony — no alley moment, no rock bottom, no radical rescue story. For a long time she thought that made her story less powerful. Her new EP Still Running to You, releasing September 9, is her answer to that lie.

Steadfast faith, the gift of being kept, and a hymn that still says everything: Natalie shares why she believes the church kid testimony is just as miraculous as anyone else's, because what God kept you from is just as worth celebrating as what He brought you through. She also talks about writing Big World with horns, saxophones, and a whole room full of musicians recording together at the same time to capture the feeling that nobody is doing this alone, why she still takes scripture and sets it to music the way she did as a kid, and how landing at Belmont University in Nashville — not because she knew she needed to be there, but because she just liked the school — opened every door she has walked through since.

Highlights

• Why she spent years thinking her church kid testimony was less powerful than someone else's dramatic rescue story
• The realization that what God kept you from is just as miraculous as what He brought you through
• How growing up running around her parents' worship rehearsals shaped everything about who she became as an artist
• Big World, recorded with a full room of musicians all tracking together, and why she wants it to open every live show
• Why she still sets scripture to music the same way she did as a child and why it remains her favorite way to write
• The decision to put Blessed Assurance on the EP and why those hymn lyrics — this is my story, this is my song — capture her entire testimony
• How nine years at Belmont in Nashville introduced her to collaborators and opened doors she never could have planned for
• Meeting Nichole Nordeman at an awards show and what it meant to tell her how much those songs shaped her

Resources / Links / CTA

• 🌐 Natalie Layne website: https://www.natalielayne.com
• 📱 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/natalielaynemusic
• 🎵 EP: Still Running to You
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John Cooper, lead singer of Skillet, wrote Scream during one of the hardest seasons of his life — betrayal, slander, and the kind of disorientation that comes when the rug is pulled out from under everything you trusted. The song is raw, reaching, and ends with a cry to God: come pull me out from under the noise and thunder. The new EP is called After the Storm, and he says the title is aptly chosen because he is finally on the other side.

Suffering, social media, and the 4-billion-stream song his label almost never let him record: John shares why he believes Monster resonates because it captures what the Bible actually says about being a sinner and a saint simultaneously, why he limits his time on social media and never reads the comments, and why eleven tours through Russia convinced him to love America in a way that no amount of political debate ever could. He also opens up about what has kept his marriage, his band, and his faith grounded through decades in the public eye, a shared agreement that the Bible is above everything, including him.

Highlights

• Why Scream is the most vulnerable Skillet has been in years and what personal betrayal and suffering inspired it
• Why he believes Christians can be simultaneously sinners and saints and why Monster is a deeply biblical message
• How Monster broke bigger than rock and why soccer moms relating to it was something he never saw coming
• Why he almost never goes on social media and what he would say to Christians about how to handle the cesspool
• What eleven tours through Russia taught him about loving America, freedom of speech, and the gift of liberty
• Why he is not a Christian nationalist but still believes America's form of government was built on reformers' ideas rooted in Scripture
• Why he tells Christians who say they love Jesus but aren't into doctrine: if you want to know who He is, read the Bible
• How a shared agreement that the Bible is above everyone in the band and the household has kept Skillet grounded for decades

Resources / Links / CTA

• 🌐 Website: https://johnlcooper.com
• 📱 Instagram John Cooper: https://www.instagram.com/johnlcooper
• 🎵 Single: Scream
• 🎵 EP: After the Storm, coming soon
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Mena Massoud grew up doing church plays and Stations of the Cross as a Coptic Christian, the son of Egyptian parents who moved to Canada when he was three and a half. He went to the University of Toronto for neuroscience, auditioned for theater school on a leap of faith, got one of the thirty spots, and eventually landed Aladdin after a six-month silence from Disney followed by a call to fly to London and screen test with Guy Ritchie. Now he is playing Daniel in Daniel in the Fiery Furnace, a biblical film about a man who refused to bow, literally and figuratively.

Faith, identity, and the question every generation has to answer for itself: Mena shares why Daniel's story resonates so deeply for him as an immigrant who knows what it is like to leave everything familiar and hold onto your culture, language, and faith in a foreign land, and why he believes the central question of the film — who do you hold in the highest regard — is one every young person is wrestling with right now in a world full of athletes, celebrities, and influencers competing for that place. He also talks about what it was like to audition for Aladdin, forget about it for six months, and then get the call that changed his career.

Highlights

• Why Mena has been circling biblical projects for years and why Daniel in the Fiery Furnace is the one God put in his path
• Why Daniel's refusal to bow is as relevant today as it was in Babylon, especially for young people on social media
• How his parents' immigration from Egypt to Canada, speaking Arabic at home and cooking Egyptian food every night, mirrors Daniel's experience in Babylon
• What it was like to grow up in a tight-knit Coptic community in Ontario where his closest friendships were formed at church
• How Aladdin came after a six-month silence from Disney and why the real surprise was getting called back, not booking the role
• What his four years at theater school looked like: 13–14 hour days, six days a week, singing, dancing, Shakespeare, and mask work
• What he would wish for if the genie were real, and why health is the only answer that matters as you get older

Resources / Links / CTA

• 📱 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/menamassoud
• 🎬 Daniel in the Fiery Furnace: https://www.imdb.com/title
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Kristin Jordan was trying to get her three-year-old son to sleep when he started talking about the monster under his bed. Instead of dismissing the fear, the Holy Spirit gave her a thought — what if the monster is more afraid of you than you are of him? That became the seed of Shilo and the Not So Scary Girl Above His Bed, a children's book about a lovable character who is afraid but takes one brave step anyway, written by Kristin and her husband Montell Jordan, the R&B singer behind This Is How We Do It.

Facing fear as a child, facing cancer as an adult, and the courage that can only be received and never manufactured: Montell shares what it was like to hear the word cancer in January 2024, to have surgery to remove his prostate in November, to face a recurrence nine months later requiring 37 proton therapy treatments, and to receive a call from his doctor on Christmas Day 2025 with results showing his cancer was undetectable. He and Kristin also open up about three decades of marriage, why she started chasing God before he did, and why they now spend their time pastoring the unpastored — musicians, entertainers, and people in secular spaces who would never walk into a church on a Sunday.

Highlights

• The bedtime conversation with their three-year-old that sparked the idea for Shilo and the Not So Scary Girl Above His Bed
• Why Shilo is not fearless — he is afraid, and he does it afraid, taking one brave step at a time
• Why Kristin believes dismissing a child's fear with "you don't have to be afraid" is the wrong response
• Why manufactured courage is unsustainable and true bravery has to be received, not produced
• Montell's cancer diagnosis in January 2024, surgery, recurrence, 37 proton therapy treatments, and the Christmas Day call declaring him undetectable
• Why he immediately said "this is not going to kill me" the moment the doctor used the word cancer
• Their 72-hour water fasts, dietary overhaul, and holistic approach to healing alongside medical treatment
• How This Is How We Do It has become an entry point for ministry — the same man, a different heart, pointing to something bigger

Resources / Links / CTA

• 🌐 Montell Jordan website: https://montellandkristin.com
• 📱 Instagram Montell Jordan: https://www.instagram.com/montelljordan
• 📱 Instagram How We Do Marriage: https://www.instagram.com/howwedomarriage
• 📖 Book: Shilo and the Not So Scary Girl Above His Bed
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Sujo John arrived in America from India in February 2001 with $60 in his wallet and two bags full of dreams. By September he was on the 81st floor of the North Tower, his pregnant wife was on the 71st floor of the South Tower, and the morning of September 11 he sent an email to a friend at 7:32AM saying something is happening to me — I've been chasing stuff in America and I need to chase after God. Sixteen minutes later, American Flight 11 hit his floor.

Survival, purpose, and a girl in a red light district who grabbed his arm and changed everything: Sujo shares what it was like to walk down the stairwell past hundreds of firefighters heading up, to be buried in debris when the South Tower fell and pulled out by an FBI agent who ran back in and never came out, and to receive a phone call later that day from his wife — whom he was certain was dead. He also shares why the doctors told them to abort their son, why they refused, and how that child is now 24 years old and in medical school. And he tells the story of a trip to a red light district in New Delhi where a girl grabbed his arm, said get me out of here, and God said this is exactly what I rescued you for.

Highlights

• Arriving in America with $60 in February 2001 and landing a job on the 81st floor of the North Tower six months later
• Sending an email about his spiritual state at 7:32AM on September 11, then the plane hitting at 8:48AM
• Walking past hundreds of firefighters going up as he was running down and what that image still means to him
• Being buried in debris when the South Tower fell, pulled out by FBI agent Leonard Hatton, who ran back in and died
• Finding out his pregnant wife was alive — and that she had been two minutes late to work that day
• Why doctors urged them to abort their son because of the toxic air she had inhaled, and why they refused
• The red light district in New Delhi, a girl who grabbed his arm and said get me out of here, and the founding of You Can Free Us

Resources / Links / CTA

• 🌐 Sujo John ministry: https://sujojohn.com
• 🌐 You Can Free Us: https://youcanfreeus.org
• 📱 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sujojohn
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Patrick Hill was a fullback at the University of Miami, had stints with the Titans, Broncos, and Texans, and when football doors stopped opening he asked God to lead him somewhere else. That somewhere else turned out to be a nursing program at UCLA, and eventually a career as an inpatient psychiatric nurse and orthopedic nurse practitioner. The transition made more sense than people might expect — a fullback's whole job is selfless service, blocking so someone else can score. Patrick just traded the field for the ward.

True strength, Mercy Ships, and the devotional series that brought an NFL player and a Jacksonville Jaguar together: Patrick shares how nursing reshaped everything he thought he knew about strength — that the loudest victories at the bedside are often completely silent, that the most vulnerable patients carry the most unwavering faith, and that a smile from a dementia patient who remembers your name is one of the most powerful moments a human being can witness. He is part of Strength in Service, a 10-part devotional series on the Glorify app in partnership with Mercy Ships, and his message to every young athlete who thinks strength means never showing weakness is simple: be yourself, be rooted in Christ, and the sky is the limit.

Highlights

• How a conversation with the dean of UCLA's nursing school during the NFL lockout changed the entire direction of his life
• Why the fullback position — the most selfless role on the field — prepared him perfectly for a life of service in healthcare
• What nursing taught him about strength that football never could, including the power of a hand on the back or a smile at the right moment
• Why he believes the strongest people he has ever met were patients at their most vulnerable
• How his faith shapes his approach to every patient, modeled after Jesus going after the sickest and most broken
• What Mercy Ships does and why its model of volunteer surgeons and free care in the world's most medically scarce regions moved him deeply
• His message to young Christian athletes: don't be afraid to be rooted in Christ and you will play more freely than you ever thought possible
• Why he believes God answered his high school prayers through a path that looked like disappointment before it looked like a blessing

Resources / Links / CTA

• 🎧 Strength in Service devotional series
• 🌐 Mercy Ships: https://www.mercyships.org
• 🌐 Glorify app: https://www.glorify.global/app
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