In this episode of Sales [UN]Training, host Kelly Riggs sits down with Chris Lancaster, VP of Sales for Spectrum Paint, in the second installment of the "Crushing Your Number" series, talking to real people making real sales decisions every day. Chris, with over 25 years of experience in the paint and coatings industry, shares his journey from salesperson to VP, highlighting the challenges and triumphs of managing a large sales team across multiple locations. The conversation delves into the complexities of transitioning from sales to leadership, particularly the difficulty in allowing team members to learn from their failures and the importance of setting clear expectations. Chris emphasizes that while sales success often leads to promotion, the skills required for effective sales management are vastly different. He candidly discusses the struggles with developing a consistent onboarding process and the critical need for clarity in expectations to ensure team success. Whether you're a seasoned sales leader or just starting your management journey, this episode offers invaluable insights into the often-overlooked aspects of sales leadership and training.

Inside this episode...

Chris discusses the challenges of transitioning from salesperson to VP of Sales and the hardest parts of sales management.

The pitfalls of assuming great salespeople make great managers; the importance of letting team members fail and learn.

The struggle of knowing when to trust your team to make decisions and the impact of leadership autonomy.

Chris shares his evolution in thinking and how it took years to get comfortable with letting others lead.

The challenge of managing people: unexpected responses and the difficulty in getting people to think for themselves.

Importance of setting clear expectations and accountability in training new salespeople.

The difficulties sales managers face and the trap of promoting top salespeople into management roles.

This episode is packed with actionable advice for sales leaders and managers, focusing on real-world challenges and strategies for overcoming them.

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Kelly Riggs is an author, speaker, and business consultant for executives and companies throughout the United States and Canada. He has written two books: 1-on-1 Management: What Every Great Manager Knows That You Don’t and Quit Whining and Start SELLING! A Step-by-Step Guide to a Hall of Fame Career in Sales. 

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Widely recognized as a powerful speaker and performance coach in the areas of sales, management leadership, and strategic planning, Kelly is a former sales executive, a two-time national Salesperson-of-the-Year, a business owner, and a member of the Forbes’ Coaches Council since 2019. 

Music and Editing by Pod About It Productions @dougbranson