I talked to Dan Ozzi, author of the book Sellout, about his recent Fader piece about The Armed—a band/collective/cult from Detroit. We jump from there into early 2010s music writing, hearing new music as you get old, editing Noisey in the early 2010s, getting nostalgic about Chumped, media now vs. media then, when the label or publisher asks you to do corny stuff, selling out, "lying Lydia Tár" ...and then we close out by reacting to Barack Obama’s summer playlist, which dropped right before we recorded.

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