Olga and Mo are joined by Ruth Ben-Ghiat, an NYU professor and scholar on fascism and authoritarian leaders. Her articles are published in national and international media outlets with a column on CNN. Her latest book, "Strongmen: From Mussolini to the Present," examines how illiberal leaders use corruption, violence, propaganda, and machismo to stay in power, and how resistance to them has unfolded over a century.

Ruth's Lucid Substack: https://lucid.substack.com/p/welcome-to-lucid?s=r

Ruth's website: https://ruthbenghiat.com/

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