Jamie is joined by Dave Kramer, best friend of Hannah Clarke, to discuss how her tragic story became the catalyst for his advocacy against domestic violence and toxic masculinity.

Hannah's murder, along with her three children, shook Australia to its core, sparking a national conversation about coercive control, gender-based violence, and the urgent need for change.

Dave opens up about the painful regret of not speaking up when Hannah's husband made misogynistic and degrading remarks about her. That silence haunts him, but instead of letting it consume him, Dave has turned tragedy into purpose.

We dive into how small, unchecked misogyny can escalate into something worse, the pressure men face under traditional gender roles - and how that can fuel violence, teaching young men and women healthier ways to process emotions, and what healthy masculinity looks like.

Dave shared the song that was played at their funeral and we thought it would be fitting for the outro song: "You are my Sunshine" by Jasmine Thompson 

In loving memory of Hannah, Aaliyah (6), Laianah (4), and Trey (3).

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