Very few people have experienced the inside of the "Evangelical Industrial Complex" quite like Dave McGinnis. As a kid who has grown up in the church (running a video switcher for the Christmas Program and switching transparencies for worship) with two parents & a wife on staff and also worked for churches himself, Dave has a unique perspective on the issues facing the church and how it could (potentially) be better on the inside. When you know how the sausage is made, when you've seen behind the curtain and experienced several hurts and calamities, how do you move forward with church? I don't know. But we have to do better!

We get into some really good topics: politics, nationalism, #ChurchToo, Toxic Masculinity and more. You can find Dave on Twitter (@dav_mcg), where he is super duper insightful and often posts fun stuff about movies and pop culture too.

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