Deborah Archer is a tenured professor and Associate Dean at New York University School of Law. She is also the president of the ACLU and a nationally recognized expert on civil liberties, civil rights, and racial justice. She is an elected member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and the American Law Institute, and an award-winning teacher and legal scholar. Before full-time teaching, she worked as an attorney with the ACLU and the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, Inc., where she litigated voting rights, employment discrimination, and school desegregation. She previously served as chair of the New York City Civilian Complaint Review Board, the nation’s oldest and largest police oversight agency. Deborah is the author of the new book Dividing Lines: How Transportation Infrastructure Reinforces Racial Inequality.

Deborah and I discuss her new book and how the ACLU is addressing unconstitutional actions of Trump 2.0.

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Produced by Andy Ostroy, Matty Rosenberg, and Jennifer Hammoud