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Leland Vittert is a journalist known for his work as a foreign correspondent for Fox News and as the current Chief Washington Anchor for NewsNation. He is the author of the New York Times Bestselling book Born Lucky: A Dedicated Father, a Grateful Son, and My Journey with Autism

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Allan Peters is a creative director, designer, and branding specialist. Largely considered to be one of the best in the U.S., he has worked with Nike, Target, Disney, and many more.

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Dr. Clay Routledge and I joined Kitty Bogle-Sherman and Coco Harmon on their podcast to discuss religion, culture, symbolism, and how to save civilization. 

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Joshua Bodkin is the Owner/Director of Solar Wave Media, a content production company focused on telling inspiring stories. He is also the editor-in-chief of Chasing Passion magazine.

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Paul Vander Klay is a minister in the Christian Reformed Church of North America in Sacramento, California. His YouTube Channel has more than 30,000 subscribers: with videos on Christianity, the meaning crisis, and popular intellectual discourse.

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Rafe Kelley is the founder of Evolve, Move, Play, which incorporates practices from parkour, martial arts, gymnastics, and dance, as well as the study of human evolution and anthropology, to strengthen people in mind and body.

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Kaz Hayashi is a biblical scholar, archeologist, and theologian from Japan. He is currently an associate professor of Old Testament at Bethel Seminary and has written on the theology and anime.   Check out his work in:

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John Mark McMillan is a Platinum-selling American singer-songwriter, born in Charlotte, NC.

Stephen Roach is an author, musician, and founder of The Breath & the Clay, a creative community at the intersection of art, faith, and culture. As host of the Makers & Mystics podcast, he curates conversations that help artists recover wonder and live with deeper spiritual attention.

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