Join Alex Tapscott and Andrew Young as they decode the world of Web3 and DeFi with special guest Dr. Friederike Ernst, Co-Founder of Gnosis. Listen in as they discuss how Friederike first got into crypto ten years ago and her journey in the space since then, what Gnosis is building and why the team views it as middleware, Gnosis' transformation over the years and the vision behind Gnosis Chain, the current crossroads Ethereum faces and what Friederike believes needs to change, the process of spinning out both Cowswap and Safe, how they've developed, and more.