German, Jerusalem, and Dylan talk about an idea that has come to dominate national discussions of policing: defunding the police. They walk through the pros and cons of the idea as a policy proposal, then discuss how it’s affecting the politics of criminal justice. Finally, they discuss new research on discrimination against Black and Latinx renters.

References:

German’s article on police research

German’s article on guns and policing

Austin’s defunding journey

Study finding more police mean fewer homicides

Study finding London police closures led to more violent crime

Expert survey finding most say more police funding would mean public safety improvements

2020's protests led to state policing reforms, but not defunding

Pew on public opinion toward defunding the police

Rogé Karma interviews Patrick Sharkey on The Ezra Klein Show

White paper: “Racial Discrimination and Housing Outcomes in the United States Rental Market”

Jerusalem's article on discrimination against housing voucher recipients

Hosts:

Dylan Matthews (@dylanmatt), senior correspondent, Vox

German Lopez (@germanrlopez), senior correspondent, Vox

Jerusalem Demsas (@jerusalemdemsas), policy reporter, Vox

Credits:

Sofi LaLonde, producer & engineer

Libby Nelson, editorial adviser

Amber Hall, deputy editorial director of talk podcasts

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