The world says, “Follow your heart.” But Jesus says, “Deny yourself.”  In this episode, we're sharing the next step to sainthood: self denial. Listen as Keith and Patrick challenge the modern idea that happiness comes from chasing your desires, citing where Jesus taught the opposite: real joy comes from denying yourself and following him.

The two explore why self-denial isn’t restrictive; it's freeing. You’ll learn how self-focus (whether through pride or shame) keeps you trapped, how secular studies have also proven that self-denial leads to greater happiness, and how to practice the discipline of surrender in everyday life. We hope this episode leaves you asking: Am I self-serving or serving God?

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