What if the future of real estate was rooted in regeneration, not extraction?

In this episode of The Regenerative Real Estate Podcast, Neal sits down with legendary permaculture designer Penny Livingston, whose work has spanned continents and inspired a generation of land stewards, builders, and community weavers.

Penny shares her journey from conventional landscape design to studying under permaculture co-founder Bill Mollison—and how that shift redefined not just her profession, but her entire worldview.

Together, they explore:

• What it means to design human environments with nature, not against it
• How permaculture principles can inform development at every scale
• The power of whole-systems thinking in real estate, architecture, and community
• A moving story from her work with the Ketchwa people of Peru
• Why regenerative design doesn’t just sustain—it creates overflowing abundance

This is a conversation that goes far beyond gardens and green roofs. It’s a reminder that how we design our places is how we design our future.

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This podcast isn’t just about ideas—it’s about action. From these conversations, two organizations have emerged to bring regenerative real estate to life:

Latitude Regenerative Real Estate is the world’s first regenerative-focused real estate brokerage, dedicated to aligning values-driven buyers and sellers. With a strong presence in the Pacific Northwest and Great Lakes regions, Latitude also supports purpose-driven developments across North America through strategic marketing and branding services. If you're looking to buy, sell, or amplify a regenerative project, Latitude is your trusted partner.

Hamlet Capital is an investment and development firm committed to building resilient communities rooted in working farms. If you’re developing an agrihood or conservation community, we’d love to hear from you. Together, we can turn visionary ideas into thriving, place-based investments.