In this episode, I’m chatting with Jayson Greene, a journalist and author based in Brooklyn, NY. Jayson is probably most-well known as a senior editor at the influential music site Pitchfork, and we kick off our conversation by discussing what got him into music journalism and writing in general. Jayson’s memoir, “Once More We Saw Stars” is a tragic account of loss, and we also touch on that. The greater part of the conversation, though, focuses on societal expectations of masculinity and how it’s impacted both our lives. Jayson shares his personal experiences of being bullied and feeling like he didn't fit (and still doesn’t fit) the traditional masculine mold. How does that traditional masculine mold help us or hurt us? How does not subscribing to gender norms affect the way we walk through the world, the way we interact with others, the way we parent? What does queerness mean? Jayson also asks me some fairly probing questions that cause me to think about issues like psychological safety and how I interact with that concept in my regular life. It’s a really great conversation, and an hour in, we realized that there was no way we were gonna touch on everything we wanted to in the time we had. So stay tuned for part 2, coming soon!

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