Being early to SEO helped Dharmesh Shah build HubSpot into a $30B company. Now he's obsessed with something new: AI ranking.

It's how to show up when people ask ChatGPT for recommendations instead of Googling.

In this conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with HubSpot Founder & CTO Dharmesh Shah (@dharmesh) to unpack:

• AEO (Answer Engine Optimization): SEO for the AI era
• How to structure content to get cited in AI answers
• The hidden risk of low-quality AI content
• Effectively using AI agents as teammates
• The coming “AI App Store” for agents

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