Vine is coming back, and we might have helped resurrect it.

First, Elon Musk announced plans to revive Vine in “AI form”. A few months later, news broke that Twitter founder Jack Dorsey was backing another revival called diVine.

The key difference? diVine runs on an open-source, decentralised server that blocks all AI content.

So why are two of the wealthiest men in the world - and two of the most influential figures in tech - so keen to revive a defunct app? And could our humble hosts, Benedict and Mary, be the unlikely muse?

diVine's creator, and Dorsey’s former boss, Evan Henshaw-Plath, hands the team early access to the app’s highly coveted beta. In a wild interview on the hacker code that built social media, why he chose Vine, how he beat Musk to launch and his hail Mary attempt to fix what platforms broke.

Listen to this special episode about a very unlikely chain reaction between Twitter’s very first employee, a podcast and the resurrection of the internet’s favourite app.