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Series 8 has been one of the most powerful yet, a season of raw honesty, deep reflection, and inspiring resilience. Across sixteen extraordinary conversations, we’ve explored what it truly means to live, love, and lead with authenticity.
From suicidal ideation to self-acceptance, childhood loss to creative rebirth, OCD to bipolar, miscarriage to motherhood, each story redefined success not as wealth or status, but as presence, purpose, and the courage to ask for help.
This finale brings together the highlights and trailers from Series 8 (Episodes 115–130).
00:00 — Daniel Wilsher (E115)
01:24 — Joel Lawton (E116)
02:43 — Simon Chuter (E117)
04:27 — Sam Adams (E118)
05:55 — Asis Patel (E119)
07:13 — Howie McConnell (E120)
09:04 — Ashley Usiskin (E121)
11:14 — Abi Mellor (E122)
12:36 — David Eakins (E123)
14:25 — Oly Newton (E124)
15:07 — Jon Kennett (E125)
16:53 — Max Marshall (E126)
19:17 — Dr Carlos Saba (E127)
21:59 — Sarah Willingham (E128)
23:21 — Jonathan Lea (E129)
25:03 — Matthew White (E130)
From the depths of despair to the light of discovery, Series 8 reminded us that success isn’t measured by wealth or fame, but by how deeply we live and love. Every story, every voice, every moment shared helps shift the narrative, one honest conversation at a time.
If this series moved you, share this episode with someone who needs it.
And if you’re struggling, remember: asking for help is strength, not weakness.
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At 39, Matthew White’s world changed overnight. A seizure on the football pitch led to a devastating diagnosis, an extensive, incurable brain tumour. In this deeply emotional Different Hats Series 8 finale, Matthew shares his journey of survival, hope, and redefining success in the face of uncertainty.
He opens up about the physical and emotional battles of brain surgery, radiotherapy, and chemotherapy, and the profound lessons he’s learned along the way, about time, presence, gratitude, love, vulnerability, and what it really means to live.
Through his writing and advocacy, Matthew has become a voice for resilience and change, challenging stereotypes about masculinity, illness, and success. His words are raw, real, and profoundly moving.
Join Matthew and I was we explore themes of identity, perspective, vulnerability, fatherhood, curiosity, emotional literacy, and the courage to keep learning, no matter what life brings.
00:00 – Introduction
05:30 – Redefining success and identity after illness
10:00 – Living authentically vs. living society’s narrative
15:00 – The importance of curiosity, learning, and participation
20:00 – Finding joy in the small things
25:30 – The seizure, the scan, and hearing the words “It’s cancer”
33:00 – Family resilience and being home for Christmas
39:00 – Controlling the controllables
42:30 – Balancing hope and realism
45:00 – Documenting his journey to help others
49:00 – Processing trauma and finding control through learning
56:00 – “Don’t give up — it will get better”
1:03:00 – Building emotional intelligence through psychotherapy
1:10:00 – Finding his voice again
1:17:00 – The power of asking for help
1:23:00 – Creating a cocoon of support and redefining vulnerability
1:30:00 – Lessons from his children
1:38:00 – Rethinking time and what really matters
1:45:00 – The evolved version of Matthew White
1:48:00 – Perspective: what really matters each day
1:50:00 – The biggest lesson of all: never stop learning
1:52:00 – Messages for his wife and children
1:55:00 – Living in hope and staying one step ahead
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Instagram: @livingwithabraintumour
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What does it really mean to speak your truth in a divided world?
In this powerful episode, I sit down with Jonathan Lea solicitor, entrepreneur, and founder of The Jonathan Lea Network, for an honest conversation about courage, conviction, and authenticity.
Jonathan opens up about growing his law firm, navigating controversy, and standing firm on his beliefs during one of the most polarising times in modern history. We talk about free speech, the fear of speaking out, and why honest debate, even when uncomfortable, is essential for personal and societal growth.
From lessons in leadership and fatherhood to the rise of AI in law, this episode is a masterclass in integrity, presence, and redefining success.
00:00 Introduction
03:21 “How do you define success?” – career, family, campaigning
10:16 Success as a feeling vs. milestones; surviving a tough market
25:50 Should debate be taught in schools?
27:00 Pandemic years: campaigning, reputation, and staying civil online
33:48 Values vs. opinions: can relationships survive big differences?
38:13 “Freedom movement,” Tommy Robinson, and division
41:38 Immigration, patriotism, compassion & policy
50:41 Who benefits? Foreign policy, media narratives, and nuance
1:07:31 Why Jonathan spoke out during COVID
1:10:05 Censorship, protests, platform bans & media framing
1:20:36 Did speaking out hurt business? (what actually happened)
1:26:38 Leadership vs. being anodyne; standing for something
1:28:35 Lockdowns, collateral harms & vaccine passports
1:31:41 Can opposing truths coexist?
1:36:02 How to speak up safely (regulators, sources, IHRA, AI checks)
1:43:35 How his firm uses AI (ChatGPT & Gemini) across legal work
1:55:23 Will AI replace lawyers? Where humans still add value
1:59:48 The next 5 years: tech, team, and growth mindset
2:06:02 New fatherhood, balance & presence
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Website: https://www.jonathanlea.net
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanlea/
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What does true success really mean? In this inspiring conversation, I sit down with Sarah Willingham, entrepreneur, investor, former Dragon on BBC’s Dragons’ Den, and co-owner of the Brighton i360.
Sarah opens up about:
✨ Why she believes success is freedom, the ability to meander through life on your own terms.
✨ The heartbreaking loss of her soulmate during Covid and what he taught her about presence, happiness, and living fully.
✨ Her bold decision to take her four children out of school for three years to travel the world and why she calls it the best decision of her life.
✨ The challenges of entrepreneurship in hospitality, surviving Covid, and leading through tough times.
✨ Why she doesn’t believe in a career path but instead a life path building businesses and choices around lifestyle, values, and family.
✨ The lessons she’d tell her 20-year-old self (and why polishing basil leaves became her metaphor for life).
This raw and honest conversation shines a light on redefining success away from money, fame, or status, and instead towards balance, freedom, and presence.
If you’ve ever felt trapped by society’s blueprint for life, Sarah’s story will inspire you to carve your own path and embrace the beauty of just being.
⏱️ Chapters:
00:00 Defining success: freedom & presence
06:00 Curiosity, chaos & why Sarah loves variety
13:30 The flawed dictionary definition of success
17:00 Walking, nature & recalibrating from adrenaline
26:00 Diarising “nothing” & finding presence
28:30 Taking kids out of school to travel the world
39:00 Challenging the education system
53:00 Finding her “thing” in business
1:01:00 Entrepreneurship, resilience & the WHY
1:07:30 Surviving hospitality during Covid
1:10:30 Balance, chaos & polishing basil leaves
1:14:20 Advice to her 20-year-old self
1:17:00 What does a life well lived look like?
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Website: https://sarahwilligham.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarahwillingham/
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What does it really mean to live a successful life? Is success about achievements, wealth, or status or is it something much deeper?
In this powerful episode of the Different Hats Podcast, I sit down with my good friend Dr. Carlos Saba, co-founder of The Happy Startup School. Carlos shares his journey from chasing external markers of success to redefining it as a feeling of alignment, acceptance, and agency.
We dive into:
This conversation is packed with wisdom on presence, purpose, and emotional awareness, reminding us all that success is not about having more, but about being more.
00:00 – Intro What is Happy Money?
06:02 – Redefining success as a feeling of alignment
07:31 – From black belts to diaries: chasing early success goals
12:45 – Why being still is so hard in today’s society
17:56 – Childhood, conditioning & the stories we inherit
21:27 – Is the school system broken? Emotional literacy & curiosity
26:27 – Parents, teachers & environments shaping emotional awareness
29:08 – Rage, shame & teaching children emotional intelligence
32:43 – Can we measure emotional intelligence like grades?
37:48 – The “Second Mountain” of purpose & contribution
42:45 – Finding your values and purpose vs. chasing titles
48:21 – Questioning the life blueprint: marriage, career & curiosity
53:14 – Compassion, forgiveness & letting go of “the one way”
55:41 – Feeling stuck? Where to start with transition
59:10 – The First Mountain vs. the Second Mountain
1:01:43 – Redefining money: Happy Money & financial stories
1:09:51 – Scarcity, shame & abundance
1:13:29 – What is happiness? Acceptance & agency
1:15:35 – Responsibility, awareness & self-compassion
1:18:31 – Life as an adventure, not a scoreboard
1:20:29 – Chaos, stories & infinite games
1:25:24 – Death, joy & making the game better
1:29:13 – Agency, acceptance & connection
1:30:13 – Summer camp, friendship & fulfillment
1:33:30 – The key midlife question: Who am I becoming?
1:36:02 – Closing tradition: Storytelling card reflection
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Website: https://www.happystartupschool.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlossaba
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What if schools prepared young people not just to pass exams, but to live fulfilled, resilient, and happy lives?
In this inspiring conversation, I sit down with Max Marshall, a former teacher who left the classroom after 10 years to disrupt an outdated education system. Max now champions a vision for schools that prioritise emotional intelligence, resilience, and self-confidence over rote learning.
Together, we explore how redefining success for children could transform not just education, but the future mental health of our society. From Habits for Happiness to emotional tolerance, Max shares practical ideas for parents, teachers, and leaders and why teaching children to manage their emotions could ultimately save lives.
This is one of the most important and game-changing conversations I’ve had on the podcast to date.
00:00 Introduction – Fixing what schools miss
02:30 Max defines success: from popularity to fulfilment
07:00 The danger of external validation & social media
10:20 Teaching intrinsic success to children
15:00 Rethinking competition, failure & resilience
23:00 Why schools must change: outdated curriculum
27:30 The problem with SATs and measuring success
32:40 Emotional intelligence vs academic intelligence
40:00 What children really need to thrive in life
47:30 Pushback from schools & systemic barriers
55:00 Habits for Happiness – practical daily routines
1:05:00 Preparing children for secondary school & life
1:20:00 Choosing who you want to become
1:40:00 What success looks like for the next generation
1:52:00 Closing reflections & the Different Hats card
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🔗 Connect with Max Marshall
Website: https://lifeeducationcoaching.co.uk/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lifeeducationwithmax/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-marshall-life-education/
Follow Max here 👉 https://linktr.ee/maxmarshall.life.education
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⚠️ Warning ⚠️ This episode contains content that may be alarming to some listeners. We do talk about suicide which we know can be distressing.
In this powerful episode, I sit down with Jon Kennett, agency director, family man, and someone who’s lived through the highs of ambition and the lows of loss.
Jon opens up about how his definition of success has shifted over the years from chasing houses, cars, and financial milestones, to focusing on happiness, health, and the relationships that matter most.
We dive deep into themes of presence, fulfilment, balance, and relationships from practical business lessons around leadership and networking, to raw, emotional conversations about mental health and suicide. Jon shares the heartbreaking stories of close friends he’s lost, the ripple effects on everyone left behind, and why breaking the stigma around these conversations is so important.
This episode is both deeply human and practical with lessons on leadership, resilience, and the everyday sparks of meaning that keep us going.
00:00 – Opening & introductions
03:20 – Redefining success: from cars and houses to health, happiness, and family
12:15 – The pursuit vs. the destination: presence and fulfilment
20:40 – Networking done right: building relationships, not selling
31:00 – Growing up in music, confidence through performance, and lessons from his father
42:30 – Validation, highs & lows of the music industry
54:10 – Mental health, suicide, and losing a close friend
1:06:00 – The ripple effect: multiple friends lost to suicide and how it changed Jon’s outlook
1:24:00 – What needs to change: stigma, emotional education, and starting young
1:38:00 – Leadership lessons: building trust and putting the right people in the right seats
1:46:00 – Advice to a younger self
1:47:00 – Staying present as a father and leader
1:55:00 – Closing reflections: what sparks meaning in everyday life
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LinkedIn: Jon Kennett
💡 If this episode resonated with you, please like, share, and comment below. Your support helps us spread this important message and change the narrative around success and mental health.
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PRODUCED BY:
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*If you’ve been affected by any of the topics in today’s episode, please reach out to local support services or find resources via Samaritans (UK) or equivalent helplines in your country.
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At just 21, Oly Newton’s world was turned upside down. After surviving a severe mental health crisis and living for years with the daily challenges of Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), he channelled his pain into purpose, becoming a speaker, advocate, and founder of LightsOnXP, a human-centred workplace wellbeing platform shaped by lived experience.
In this powerful conversation, Oly opens up about how OCD has shaped his life, how he learned to manage it, and why it doesn’t define him. We dive into his journey from rock bottom to leading meaningful change, the importance of being truly present, and why human connection remains the most powerful tool for wellbeing in the workplace.
This is an open, honest, and deeply human exploration of recovery, hope, resilience, and the courage to keep showing up, even when the lights feel off.
00:00 — Introduction
04:12 — Oly’s early years and the experiences that shaped him
10:05 — Hitting rock bottom: a turning point in his mental health journey
17:46 — The power of speaking out and breaking stigma
23:30 — Founding LightsOnXP: building a wellbeing platform shaped by lived experience
31:18 — Redefining success: from surviving to thriving
37:54 — Why human connection is the cornerstone of mental health in the workplace
45:22 — Navigating balance and avoiding burnout
52:16 — Authenticity and showing up as your whole self
58:04 — The role of presence in recovery and leadership
1:05:48 — Finding fulfilment in purpose-led work
1:12:09 — Relationships, trust, and creating a support network
1:19:33 — Practical steps for organisations to support mental health
1:27:15 — Living with OCD: challenges and coping strategies
1:35:42 — Lessons learned from lived experience
1:43:58 — Advice for anyone struggling with mental health right now
1:51:25 — Future plans for LightsOnXP and personal growth
1:59:50 — Closing reflections & Oly’s definition of success today
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🔗 Connect with Oly Newton
Website: https://www.lightsonxp.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/olynewton/
💡 If this episode resonated with you, please like, share, and comment below. Your support helps us spread this important message and change the narrative around success and mental health.
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Nostos Hove — www.nostos-hove.co.uk
Rivervale — www.rivervale.co.uk
Plus X — https://www.plusxinnovation.com/
PRODUCED BY: H2 Productions — https://h2productions.co.uk/
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⚠️ Warning ⚠️ This episode contains content that may be alarming to some listeners. We do talk about suicide which we know can be distressing.
At 38, David Eakins was moments away from ending his life on a railway bridge. On the outside, everything looked perfect, a great career, loving family, and strong friendships. But inside, David was silently drowning.
In this deeply moving and honest conversation, David opens up about suicidal ideation, masculinity, shame, and his journey to healing. He reveals how a single question, “How are you, out of 10?” became the turning point that led him to therapy, vulnerability, and a new life of presence and purpose.
Now leading Talk Club Brighton & Hove, David is helping other men open up and find hope through connection and conversation.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone struggling with trauma, grief or depression, or anyone supporting someone who is, or anyone ready to redefine what strength really means.
⏱️ CHAPTERS
00:00 – “I climbed the railings of a bridge…” – David’s darkest moment
03:05 – The weight of suicidal ideation: “I didn’t want to end my life… I wanted to end the pain”
07:42 – The silent battle at work and feeling lost in plain sight
13:18 – Early life, childhood masking, and belief systems about manhood
19:50 – Marriage, family dynamics, and fear of being ‘found out’
27:05 – The life-changing impact of being asked: “How are you out of 10?”
34:40 – First steps into therapy and confronting buried trauma
41:12 – Creating safe spaces: the birth of Talk Club Brighton & Hove
48:30 – The power of community and emotional accountability
56:50 – Shame, masks, and the myth of the 'strong man'
1:05:15 – Male friendship, trust, and the art of showing up
1:13:42 – Parenting, presence, and breaking generational cycles
1:22:18 – When laughter is medicine: humour, humanity and healing
1:31:40 – Business, burnout and redefining leadership through empathy
1:40:55 – Mental health at work: what employers get wrong
1:49:30 – Living with intention and building a new definition of success
1:56:50 – David answers the 5 Pillars: Balance, Authenticity, Presence, Fulfilment, Relationships
2:04:00 – Final reflections: “Be brave enough to speak before it's too late”
🔗 Connect with David Eakins
Instagram: @davideakins
LinkedIn: David Eakins
Website: https://happysapien.co.uk/
🎧 LISTEN TO MORE DIFFERENT HATS EPISODES:
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💬 If this episode resonated, please like, share, and leave a comment. Your support helps spread this vital message and change the narrative around success and mental health.
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Search Seven – www.searchseven.co.uk
Nostos Hove – www.nostos-hove.co.uk
Rivervale – www.rivervale.co.uk
Plus X – https://www.plusxinnovation.com
🎥 PRODUCED BY:
H2 Productions – https://h2productions.co.uk
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In this heartfelt episode, I sit down with Abi Mellor, co-founder of award-winning creative agency MOREVER, for a raw and powerful conversation about success, leadership, loss, and living a values-led life.
Abi opens up about her journey through motherhood, miscarriage, burnout, and business, sharing how she navigates these deeply personal experiences while leading impactful storytelling campaigns for global changemakers. We explore how her childhood shaped her, what she believes is broken in our education system, and how success for her is measured by love, presence, and purpose, not just performance.
We also talk about creating emotionally literate families, leadership with vulnerability, the importance of slowing down, and why honest storytelling matters more than ever in a distracted, digital world.
If you’ve ever felt like you’re failing at the impossible juggle, or wondered how to hold purpose and pressure at the same time, this one’s for you.
⏱️ CHAPTERS & TIME STAMPS
00:00 – Intro
02:48 – What does success mean to Abi today?
05:51 – Childhood, co-parenting & shaping values
11:30 – Creating MOREVER & purpose-led storytelling
18:44 – Miscarriage, motherhood & the emotional cost of ambition
26:20 – Vulnerability in leadership & business burnout
35:10 – Reframing failure & making space for slowness
40:22 – Phone addiction, presence & parenting in a digital world
47:38 – Changing the education system & raising emotionally intelligent kids
53:52 – Honest storytelling, holding space & creative leadership
58:46 – Being a working mum: guilt, balance & emotional weight
1:05:18 – Abi’s partner dynamic & redistributing roles at home
1:09:14 – The cost of burnout: body signals & seeking help
1:16:10 – Finding strength in slowing down & saying no
1:19:42 – Letting go of perfection & embracing emotional truth
1:24:00 – Navigating phone addiction and presence in parenting
1:29:32 – On grief, miscarriage and language that heals
1:35:20 – Changing the story: why emotional literacy matters
1:40:48 – Final thoughts on success, love, and the legacy we leave
🎧 LISTEN TO MORE DIFFERENT HATS EPISODES:
👉 https://www.different-hats.co.uk/podcast
🔗 Connect with Abi Mellor
Website: https://www.morever.co.uk/
Instagram: @moreverfilms
LinkedIn: Abi Mellor
💡 If this episode resonated with you, please like, share, and comment below. Your support helps us spread this important message and change the narrative around success and mental health.
SPONSORED BY:
Search Seven – www.searchseven.co.uk
Nostos Hove – www.nostos-hove.co.uk
Rivervale – www.rivervale.co.uk
Plus X – https://www.plusxinnovation.com/
🎬 PRODUCED BY: H2 Productions – https://h2productions.co.uk/
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I believe everyone has a story to tell, through seeking true, authentic insights about the entrepreneurial journey, I provide a platform for our peers to share their stories and inspire those that…
Welcome! I’m Sam Thomas, the host of the "Different Hats Podcast." In a world where entrepreneurs often feel pressured to wear countless hats, I believe in the power of authentic storytelling to redefine what success truly means. My mission is to help the 'World to See Success Differently' so you can achieve happiness, purpose, and fulfilment, by sharing real stories from those who’ve navigated the entrepreneurial landscape.
Through engaging conversations with peers and industry leaders like Chris Anderson of TED, I aim to provide you with the insights and inspiration needed to build the business you desire. Unlike other platforms, "Different Hats" focuses on the human side of entrepreneurship, moving beyond the performative aspects to foster genuine connections and meaningful growth.
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