Digging with Flo

Not only are we off the plot today, we aren’t really gardening either. In this special edition of Digging, Flo is spending time with Penny Rimbaud in his garden. Penny is a founding member of the anarcho-punk band Crass and performance group EXIT, as well as a poet, writer and philosopher. In this episode Penny gives Flo a tour of the garden and ‘sheds’ at Dial House, the radical open house he established in the 1960s. They discuss his approach to meditation and philosophy as well as Penny’s various tattoos. 

They talk about the formative power of Paul Rep’s book on Zen, the early influence of the film The Inn of the Sixth Happiness and the fact that Valerie Solanas’s Scum Manifesto was the book most often stolen by Dial House guests. 

Featured track - The Casimir Connection - Forgiveness from the as yet unreleased Caliban Sounds album 'REFLECTION'. Credit to Dianne McLoughlin/soprano sax. Alcyona Mick/piano. Kit Massey/violin. Tim Fairhall/bass. Written and arranged by Diane McLoughlin. Produced by Dianne McLoughlin and Penny Rimbaud.

Presenter & editor - Flo Dill, Producer - Lizzy King, Sound Recording - Giulia Campanella,  Audio production - Felix Stock. 

Music - Cleaners from Venus - The Artichoke That Loved Me, courtesy of Martin Newell & Captured Tracks.

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We’re back on the plot today with Slauson Malone 1, formerly Slauson Malone, also known as Jasper Marsalis. Jasper is a painter, sculptor and musician who currently lives in Los Angeles. His work in music feels like a form of collage; of narratives, sounds and references.

In this episode Flo and Jasper are appealing to Jasper’s perfectionist qualities and planting out garlic. They discuss the music that Jasper is currently fake listening to; his respect and fear of cooking and appreciation of dumb but useful items, like the dibber - which is well used in this episode. 

Jasper is currently reading Cruel Optimism by Lauren Berlant, listening to Abdul Wadud, By Myself; and watching Winter adé as well as Fast X.  

Presenter & editor - Flo Dill, Producer - Lizzy King, Sound Recording - Fabrice Robinson, Audio production - Felix Stock. Special thanks to Dimitris Mylonas.

Music - Cleaners from Venus - The Artichoke That Loved Me, courtesy of Martin Newell & Captured Tracks.

Listen back to Jasper's shows and guest spots on NTS

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Today Flo’s off the plot and into the garden of English musician Tirzah. One of the most enduring exponents of weird and wonderful music, Tirzah has released a string of acclaimed albums, and works in close collaboration with other musicians, namely school friend Mica Levi. 

In this episode Flo and Tirzah are planting onion seeds and broad beans into seed trays to be grown inside, until they’re ready to be planted out on the allotment. Whilst they set about this task they discuss the delicate business of karaoke, the musical impact of exiting Jehovah’s Witnesses, motherhood, and the art of collaboration. 

Discover more of Tirzah on NTS

Presenter & editor - Flo Dill, Producer - Lizzy King, Sound Recording - Sophie Ellison,  Audio production - Felix Stock. 

Music - Cleaners from Venus - The Artichoke That Loved Me, courtesy of Martin Newell & Captured Tracks.

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Today’s guest digger is rising UK rapper Sainté: originally from Leicester, this charismatic artist is an accidental musician: forced to rethink his promising basketball career due to the pandemic, he uploaded a song born out of a freestyle on the bus on the way to practice, and the internet did the rest. 

In this episode Flo and Sainté plant out raspberry canes as they discuss Sainté’s career so far, his aspirations of opening his own cafe, and early memories of growing the wrong kind of peas at his mum’s allotment.

Presenter & editor - Flo Dill, Producer - Lizzy King, Sound Recording - Sophie Ellison, Audio production - Felix Stock. Special thanks to Dimitris Mylonas.

Music - Cleaners from Venus - The Artichoke That Loved Me, courtesy of Martin Newell & Captured Tracks.

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Flo is back on the allotment for another season of Digging. In this first episode, she’s joined by English contemporary artist Jeremy Deller. The Turner Prize winner often weaves music and pop culture into his art, which tends to be politically focused and collaborative in nature. 

In this episode of Digging, Deller and Flo attempt to bridge the gaps between Take That, William Morris and the lost magic of the jumble sale, whilst planting out strawberries to overwinter on the plot. 

Presenter & editor - Flo Dill, Producer - Lizzy King, Sound Recording - Jennifer Walton, Audio production - Felix Stock. Special thanks to Dimitris Mylonas. 

Music - Cleaners from Venus - The Artichoke That Loved Me, courtesy of Martin Newell & Captured Tracks.

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This week Flo is joined by old friend and DJ OK Williams to help harvest potatoes on the plot. As they work in the blazing sunshine they reflect on Londoner OKW’s recent ascent in clubland, how she got into DJing, macho club culture, and her past role producing Andrew Weatherall’s influential NTS show.

Check out OK Williams’ monthly NTS show

Presenter - Flo Dill, Producer - Lizzy King, Sound Recording - Jennifer Walton,  Editor - Sam Stone, Mastering - Owen Pratt, special thanks to Dimitris Mylonas.

Music - Cleaners from Venus - The Artichoke That Loved Me, courtesy of Martin Newell & Captured Tracks.

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Flo is off the plot again today, this time at the veg patch of Cosey Fanni Tutti. Cosey is an artist, musician, and writer. She was a co-founder of COUM transmissions and later went on to form industrial music group, Throbbing Gristle. Both groups were highly censored and at one point they were accused by the mainstream press of being ‘wreckers of civilisation’ for their shocking and confrontational work. Cosey went on to form Chris and Cosey, and later Carter Tutti Void with her bandmate and partner, Chris Carter. 

In this episode Cosey talks Flo through her DIY approach to gardening, her recent work scoring the Delia Derbyshire film, and their mutual love of the Rosemary Tonks book, The Bloater. Later in the podcast they discuss Cosey’s choice of music to strip to, all whilst they sow carrot seeds and plant out onion sets.

Check out Cosey Fanni Tutti's shows on NTS

Presenter - Flo Dill, Producer - Lizzy King, Sound Recording - Jennifer Walton,  Editor - Sam Stone, Mastering - Rory Bowens.

Music - Cleaners from Venus - The Artichoke That Loved Me, courtesy of Martin Newell & Captured Tracks.

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Flo is off the plot today and doing some container gardening on Brix Smith’s roof garden. Brix started out at the liberal arts college Bennington, alongside Donna Tartt and Bret Easton Ellis, before going on to join seminal British post-punk band The Fall. She was also married to Mark E Smith. Today she fronts her own band, Brix Smith - a “kind of all-female supergroup”. 

Between her time in bands, she was the fabulous co-host on Gok’s Fashion Fix. Flo and Brix discuss how Brix’s acute synesthesia marries up the seemingly disparate worlds of 1970s British post-punk and the mainstream 00s TV fashion competition, whilst they pot up some tomatoes and peas.

Presenter - Flo Dill, Producer - Lizzy King, Sound Recording & Editor - Sam Stone, Mastering - Felix Stock. 

Music - Cleaners from Venus - The Artichoke That Loved Me, courtesy of Martin Newell & Captured Tracks.

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This week on plot Flo is joined by Turner Prize winning artist and non-gardener, Mark Leckey. They chat about nostalgia, living in Las Vegas and how Mark got noticed in the art world all whilst doing Flo’s favourite task..  potato planting.

Check out Mark Leckey's show on NTS. 

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Presenter - Flo Dill, Producer - Lizzy King, Editor - Sam Stone, Sound Recording - Rory Bowens, Mastering - Felix Stock, special thanks to Dimitris Mylonas.

Music - Cleaners from Venus - The Artichoke That Loved Me, courtesy of Martin Newell & captured tracks.

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