Today on Karl and Crew Mornings, we talk about discipleship with those who are not saved. It's a scary thought, but it can happen. In Matthew 7:22, Jesus says that many will come to Him one day and say that they knew Him, but in reality, they will have had an illusion of transformation. Trying to disciple someone who doesn't really know Jesus is a pointless labor. How can they grow in their walk with Christ if the walk hasn't really started yet. We are not called to inspect the spiritual fruit of the church and determine who is saved and who is not, but we can keep the Gospel fresh and at the front of everything we do. Sandi Perzee, Executive Director of MorningStar Mission, and Kevin Watson, Senior Program Director join us as well to talk about their ministry for the homeless. Take a listen to the Showcast to hear the best moments from today.