ECFR’s director Mark Leonard is meeting with Michael Ignatieff, the former leader of the Liberal Party of Canada and one of the most thoughtful historians of liberalism. Together they are looking at the future of the liberal order following Trump's election and the rise of several illiberal powers elsewhere in the world. The podcast was recorded in Vienna on 7 February 2017.Want to find out more about this topic? Reach for Michael Ignatieff's publications here: http://michaelignatieff.ca/writing/index.php

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